Your SSD of choice Q1 2011

Interesting, well that muddys the water somewhat hahaha!

Looks like the OCZ Vertex 2E model is the one to go for reading through some threads. Whats the deal with installing an SSD, read various stuff about firmware updates, ACHI and other such madness. My board is an x58 1366 if that makes any difference?
 
Interesting, well that muddys the water somewhat hahaha!

Looks like the OCZ Vertex 2E model is the one to go for reading through some threads. Whats the deal with installing an SSD, read various stuff about firmware updates, ACHI and other such madness. My board is an x58 1366 if that makes any difference?

AFAIK there haven't been any major firmware updates for any of the big players in months, so if you buy a drive now chances are it's already running the latest and you don't need to do anything.
Like BIOS updates, it's not essential that you are running the latest anyway, they tend to be minor performance improvements.

AHCI enables NCQ, which allows the drive to intelligently reorder/group requests. This significantly increases speeds when undergoing a lot of simultaneous random read/write requests. It's not a big deal for home users (outside of a benchmark), but since it's basically free performance you may as well enable it. If you are cloning windows over from an install made on a drive running in IDE mode, there's a registry edit that needs to be made if you want to boot from your new drive running in AHCI. You can easily switch between the two modes though, no need for a reinstall.

In the main though, just treat it like any other Hard Drive. The only thing to watch out for is disabling Defrag on the SSD, Defragging an SSD makes no difference to performance and simply wastes a load of write cycles.
On the subject of write cycles, in normal home use it's nothing to worry about, as long as you're not looping benchmarks or doing hundreds of GB of writes a day the SSD will be obsolete long before it expires (even then, it just switches to read only mode, so you can get your data off)
 
My new Revodrive X2 240gb:

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Is it wrong to fall in love with a piece of IT equipment :D
Hm... seq read and random read 4K are still the same as on my 1 + 3/4 years old Vertex array... but I would jump immediately for the write speeds and capacity. Still I wish that performance / capacity / cost ratio would have changed more drastically over the time. What boot times do you get ? (POST time excluded - only time spent during Windows boot till the desktop is shown)
 
The 3rd gen of Intel SSDs' controller is going to be approximately as fast as Sandforce SF-1200 iirc? That should be enough for me as it more or less maxes out SATA II performance which I'm limited to. Plus I don't really care about more speed than that, all I want is the capacity for the price.
 
270 mbs reading speed is enought in ssd most important is seek time.

im waiting for intel G3 but i think 160gb will be priced 250$ usa and 160 in uk
 
270 mbs reading speed is enought in ssd most important is seek time.

im waiting for intel G3 but i think 160gb will be priced 250$ usa and 160 in uk

I really hope your right with that estimate. I want to keep my spending to a minimum on my final SSD decision, maybe under £175. Little but too much money going into this hobby lately :rolleyes:

Ive been looking into the Intel g3's but cant seem to get any up to date information on their release date. Anybody have any luck?
 
270 mbs reading speed is enought in ssd most important is seek time.

im waiting for intel G3 but i think 160gb will be priced 250$ usa and 160 in uk

If it was priced at $249 in the US, we would pay £189 for it, even at the current $1 = £0.625 exchange rate.
 
TRIM support in RAID isn't a big deal with any current gen SSD. Firstly garbage collection routines are much more effective nowadays, so performance doesn't degrade much to begin with.

I keep seeing people say this, but I cannot see how this works? One assumes the garbage collection needs to look at the filesystem table to know what has been deleted and what hasn't, but in a Raid0 setup there isn't any specific filesystem table on any single drive for it to reference?
 
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Well I recently got myself a Corsair F40 to use as my primary boot drive as replacement for my two wd black drives in raid0 and boy did it make a difference. Sure it wasa bit of a squeeze to fit it all on the 40gb drive but SSD's are expensive atm and I can always grab a 2nd later on and raid them up. Windows boot went from a good minute or two to about 17 seconds.
 
Wow, these benchmarks are insane.
Would people recommend a Samsung PB22-J? I have the chance of getting one relatively cheap off a mate.
 
I keep seeing people say this, but I cannot see how this works? One assumes the garbage collection needs to look at the filesystem table to know what has been deleted and what hasn't, but in a Raid0 setup there isn't any specific filesystem table on any single drive for it to reference?

An SSD can infer which blocks are empty when the operating system gives it a write request to put new data in a filesystem block. What it will actually do is mark the NAND block as available for erasing, put the new data in an empty NAND block (SSD's have a decent percentage of extra inaccessible NAND just for this purpose) and change it's internal table for that filesystem block to point to the new location.
RAID makes no difference, the controller divvies up the work, but it's still at some point telling the SSD to put data in locations that the SSD knows already have data in ... Otherwise you'd never be able to write more than the capacity of the drive!

TRIM basically enhances a drives existing garbage collection routines. Instead of having to wait for a write request to come in and only being able to mark up which blocks are now free by which blocks it has been asked to store new data in, the drive gets told about ALL the blocks that can be marked for cleaning at the moment a file is deleted, which makes it much easier for it to keep a large pool of erased NAND ... and keeping a large pool of erased NAND as 'scratch space' is key to maintaining performance.

Garbage collection is nothing new for SSD's. Where routines have improved over the years is in becoming more proactive and intelligent at reorganising data so as to keep a larger available scratch space. Data needs to be reorganised because blocks can only be erased in large groups (128 blocks at a time), so the controller needs to copy data around (and update it's table) such that when those 128 blocks are erased nothing is lost.

The trade off for aggressive (i.e frequent and prepared to copy a lot of data to free up an erase block) is write amplification, since the same data can be written multiple times.

So the real benefit of TRIM support nowadays is not really performance (since garbage collection routines today work hard to keep sufficient scratch space to cope with normal usage patterns) but in reducing write amplification (less data will be copied unnecessarily, ergo less erase cycles used).
So far, NAND write cycles have not been an issue, even with the write amplification due to aggressive garbage collection firmwares and non-trim OS's I've seen very few reports of drives running out of cycles, so I feel it's safe to forego TRIM support.
 
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My SSD of choice would still be the C300 range as it is still the only 6 Gb/s range out there.

not true, this is now available for pre-order in the UK:

CSSD-P364GB2-BRKT - 64GB Corsair Performance 3 Series, MLCFlash, 2.5" SSD, SATA III, Read 365MB/s, Write 110MB/s - £130 ISH
CSSD-P364GB2-BRKT - 128GB Corsair Performance 3 Series, MLCFlash, 2.5" SSD, SATA III, Read 410MB/s, Write 210MB/s - £245 ISH
CSSD-P364GB2-BRKT - 256GB Corsair Performance 3 Series, MLCFlash, 2.5" SSD, SATA III, Read 480MB/s, Write 320MB/s - £490 ISH

They use a marvell controller and 128MB cache. Crucial C400 is out soon btw.
 
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The new Intel G3 drives are being manufactured on 25nm. So, the drives should be around double the capacity for around the same price as the current drives.

So, around 160GB for £160 or so I would assume. Certainly hope so at least! Would love one of these.
 
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