January Transfer Window 2010/2011 Season Rumours/Signings

I agree, in the long term we could do with improving all over the pitch, but right now, this window I think the need for a good winger is more pressing than the need for a CM.

I agree completely but only if the right player at the right price is available. Maybe if we were in a position where we were challenging for anything this season, there would be a case to go out and pay over the odds or sign your 2nd or 3rd choice for that position. But seeing as we're not really challenging for anything this season, we can afford to take our time and wait for our first choice. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we don't sign a striker if the Suarez deal doens't go ahead for instance.

edit: unless you're looking at cheaper squad players like the situation with Adam.
 
I agree completely but only if the right player at the right price is available. Maybe if we were in a position where we were challenging for anything this season, there would be a case to go out and pay over the odds or sign your 2nd or 3rd choice for that position. But seeing as we're not really challenging for anything this season, we can afford to take our time and wait for our first choice. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we don't sign a striker if the Suarez deal doens't go ahead for instance.

edit: unless you're looking at cheaper squad players like the situation with Adam.

Yeah, its got to be the right person at the right price. Adam frankly I would be happy if we didnt get, just not a person I would be putting a priority on right now. I'd like us to really push for Suarez though.
 
It's good to see you're still as lacking in a sense of humour and as unable to take criticism as ever.

You went from complaining about how we have such a short team to immediately proclaiming we'd lose to Barcelona. Forgive me if I naturally assume that the two points must be related, because you're not exactly known for your clarity of posting. I just thought it was rather amusing that you seemed to be saying we were too short to beat one of the only teams smaller than us.

As for your idea of playing 4-4-2 and lumping it down the wings, I'm not sure where to start. Perhaps your strange assumption that nobody has tried a 4-4-2 against Barca yet, and that they'll be therefore completely unaccustomed to it? Or the fact that you repeatedly say we don't have any wingers in the squad, and yet think that somehow the team will transfer to a formation with wingers fine? Or the idea that Maxwell and Alves aren't fast enough to deal with a quick winger formation? Or that conceding a player in the middle, against a team who love to get forward and apss it through teams, will work? Especially when said player will most likely be replaced by the workaholic Nicklas Bendtner in your quest for "punt it long, cross it in" glory? Never mind Big Sam, are you Martin O'Neill?

Cheer up DM, you don't always have to get itchy for a fight when I disagree with you.

Again you suggest I said lump it up the field for wingers, while also having a go at Bendtner. What was the score against Barca last time, let me think, Bendtner... scored one and set up the other two, with most of our good attacks coming from counter attacks bypassing midfield.

itchy for a fight when you disagree with me, you DIDN'T, you ridiculously, as almost every single time completely make up your mind as to what I said. I didn't say we were too short, you said I did and said I was wrong, I didn't say lump the ball up to wingers, you said I did then said I was wrong, etc, etc. See a repeating pattern. Arsenal have a LONG list of shortish central highly attacking players who we play all over the place except their favoured position, I questioned the logic of buying another one to add to the end of a long list. Vela, Bendtner, Rosicky/Arshavin/Theo, Nasri are in that order least likely to play, central players who we force out to the wing, should we spend 10mil on adding someone to the wrong end of that list, really? 10 million on what would be the 7th choice winger at Arsenal, but isn't actually a winger(everything I've seen suggests he likes to get central, play through the middle and most of his goals are scored through the middle).

My main issue with you is, your lack or reading comprehension, you've disagreed with a dozen points in two posts, that I never made.

As for your other suggestings, unfortunately they ignore all logic and the reality of playing Barca.

The teams that do score against Barca don't play through their midfield, the teams that do lose, the teams that go over their midfield tend to lose but get the odd goal, Inter beat them by encouraging them forwards, conceding midfield totally, backing their own midfield into their back four and every now and then breaking hard with a long ball up to their striker, and every time they did, Barca had a problem, and ultimately lost the game. Its pretty simple, look for examples of how to beat Barca.... there is ONE in recent years thats worth looking at, in that example they didn't pack out midfield with crap players in an attempt to win.


Diaby, what did he do against Barca, what about Song, both were utterly rubbish, they had rings run around them and Barca never got out of 3rd gear to do it.

Bendtner on the other hand won header after header against Pique/Puyol, and the nearest player was usually 30+ yards away.

So take Diaby out of midfield, where he did nothing, put a striker alongside Bendtner, maybe just maybe they'll have some success. Alves has pace, but can't defend and no he usually doesn't get back in time, Maxwell is less fast, and often doesn't get back.

We play Barca at their own game and try and win midfield, we lose, simple as that, we play our strongest and best team, in our strongest formation, which would also put our most useful players against their weakest, sounds like pretty good tactics to me.

Again I'll point out, Arsenal get beaten/concede goals frequently to the SAME tactic, other worse teams don't come and try to outplay Arsenal in midfield, they work out our weakness and play towards exploiting it. Ignoring their weakness and playing into their strength, is just about the stupidest thing we could possibly do.
 
What's not to get? Why wouldn't you be upset about losing your best player, especially when Liverpool aren't offering much for him.

I can fully see why Holloway wants more than £4m for him. Regardless of his "true value", it's not exactly much to tempt Blackpool to sell, especially if he's as crucial to the team as is being made out. I'd want at least twice that if I were him.

I understand why he's annoyed, he's put faith and helped build Adam in to the player he is.

I just think that Holloway should try and remain fairly calm and not throw his toys out of the pram, Just try and get as much money as you can for him.

I know :/
9m :p..not bothered about the fee its more the fact of Mancini clearing the team of Mark Hughes players. Fortunately he signed a few excellent players in Kompany, De Jong and Zabaleta.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Lescott and k Toure moved on at the end of the season with a good young CB coming in such as Subotic. Boyata would then be ready for the prem by then also so he would be backup.

I think there is a lot of players City need to clear out ;)
 
Yeah, its got to be the right person at the right price. Adam frankly I would be happy if we didnt get, just not a person I would be putting a priority on right now. I'd like us to really push for Suarez though.

While I'm undecided on whether we should sign Adam or not, I don't believe that his signing will have any influence on us signing Suarez or any other player.

The talk is that providing we find the player we want and the price is fair, money is there to spend; there's no set budget as such.
 
While I'm undecided on whether we should sign Adam or not, I don't believe that his signing will have any influence on us signing Suarez or any other player.

The talk is that providing we find the player we want and the price is fair, money is there to spend; there's no set budget as such.

Certainly it won't impact our finances, as you rightly say Werner said that there was no limit on funds. If I had any concern it would be time frames. There's what, 7 days of the transfer window left, I'd rather not get overly embroiled in a prolonged price saga over Adam at this stage, would prefer that we concentrated on pushing the Suarez deal through and begin procedures for a winger/left back. If we're still interested in Adam then there is plenty of time in the summer to argue the toss with Holloway over price.
 
itchy for a fight when you disagree with me, you DIDN'T, you ridiculously, as almost every single time completely make up your mind as to what I said. I didn't say we were too short, you said I did and said I was wrong, I didn't say lump the ball up to wingers, you said I did then said I was wrong, etc, etc.
So what the hell tactic DO you suggest Arsenal play with? Because seriously, all I'm trying to do is interpret what your stream of conciousness into something concrete, and yet every time I do, you whine that I'm mis-quoting you/making things up. Sorry, but did you or did you not suggest playing a 4-4-2 with fast wingers and direct passing to ignore the midfield as best as possible?

My main issue with you is, your lack or reading comprehension, you've disagreed with a dozen points in two posts, that I never made.
And you wonder why I think your itching for a fight? Stop making pathetic little attacks on my ability to read please, and realise that maybe, just maybe, your posts aren't the most coherent to read, and you come across as an arrogant twerp.

Diaby, what did he do against Barca, what about Song, both were utterly rubbish, they had rings run around them and Barca never got out of 3rd gear to do it.
Hahaha, excellent! I'm the one that's constantly ignoring what you write, and then you use Diaby, a player I've never mentioned, in order to justify your point.

Which one of Song, Wilshere and Fabregas is Abou Diaby, DM? Do tell.

We play Barca at their own game and try and win midfield, we lose, simple as that, we play our strongest and best team, in our strongest formation, which would also put our most useful players against their weakest, sounds like pretty good tactics to me.
It won't be our strongest formation! Strewth. One more time:

You say: WE DON'T HAVE ANY WINGERS WAAAAH
You also say: 4-4-2 WITH WINGERS IS OUR BEST FORMATION WAAAAH

Which one is it?

Again I'll point out, Arsenal get beaten/concede goals frequently to the SAME tactic, other worse teams don't come and try to outplay Arsenal in midfield, they work out our weakness and play towards exploiting it. Ignoring their weakness and playing into their strength, is just about the stupidest thing we could possibly do.
And yet again, I'll make the point that we concede goals because our defence makes mistakes, which no amount of tinkering in midfield would really fix. Especially if you're taking away Song or Wilshere to make room for a striker.

I'm going to give up after this I reckon, because there's a 99.9999% chance you'll just USE CAPITALS a lot to point out how I'M SO STUPID for not understanding your SIMPLE, THOUSAND-WORD essays and continue to berate anyone that thinks differently to you because THE VERY IDEA of constructive debate is ANATHEMA (you can look that one up if you want, I don't mind) to you.
 
I understand why he's annoyed, he's put faith and helped build Adam in to the player he is.

I just think that Holloway should try and remain fairly calm and not throw his toys out of the pram, Just try and get as much money as you can for him.

It's Holloway though, has he ever done anything in football without massive amounts of passion being involved.

Weeb has kindly explained the situation, Blackpool and Holloway give him a chance, Holloway makes him the main man of the team and club captain, he has a decent season and the big boys come knocking, his head gets turned.

You can understand why Holloway might be slightly ****ed off, no?

Especially with that pitiful bid :/
 
does seem a bit of a curious choice for Liverpool, even given the clubs current woes

Unless the club is thinking strictly short term, so they dont want to try and sign a player who may want/deserve high-ish wages /cost a small fortune in transfer fees....

Saurez transfer is taking a while too - Im sure the lawyers are working on it, just thought it would be wrapped up by now thats all


I feel for Blackpool - nowadays you can get ***** all for that kind of money (I know he himself cost hardly anything, but that was more fluke than anything), and there is the additional risk about how the new person fits into the squad in the middle of a season, especially with their (very) current form, every match / point is crucial
 
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The bloke just does not have a sense of humour, I tried and failed several years ago and find it easier to plonk him on ignore.
I can't help it sometimes, I know I should know better. It just baffles me how somebody can be utterly unable to admit they might be wrong about anything, ever. :|
 
How Spurs got Van Der Vaart.

When VDV#s transfer to Bayern fell through - he was offered to Liverpool first for £8m. We didn't have the money but Purslow and Hodgson decided to off load anyone they could. West Ham (of all clubs) offered £8m for Babel. We accepted and put him "in that helicopter". Real Madrid accepted our bid.

In the meantime - Daniel Levy got wind of the transfer and offered Liverpool more money for Babel. Babel & Agent were more than happy to go and we accepted the higher bid. Helicopte heads to Tottenham. Babel lands and is kept waiting for 3 hours for a medical - gets fudged off and leaves. We don't have time to get any money together and Tottenham call VDV's agent and offer to buy him.

Rest as they say, is history.
Pretty funny if true :D
 
Certainly it won't impact our finances, as you rightly say Werner said that there was no limit on funds. If I had any concern it would be time frames. There's what, 7 days of the transfer window left, I'd rather not get overly embroiled in a prolonged price saga over Adam at this stage, would prefer that we concentrated on pushing the Suarez deal through and begin procedures for a winger/left back. If we're still interested in Adam then there is plenty of time in the summer to argue the toss with Holloway over price.

I'm sure we're capable of negotiating a couple of deals at the same time. I can't see Comolli on the phone to Ajax 24 hours of the day ;)

Weeb has kindly explained the situation, Blackpool and Holloway give him a chance, Holloway makes him the main man of the team and club captain, he has a decent season and the big boys come knocking, his head gets turned.

Blackpool are also paying a player they value at £14m-46m just £9k per week and Adam had to take Blackpool to court at the end of last season to get his £20k bonus for helping Blackpool avoid relegation.

It works both way. As I said earlier, providing Adam gives 100% on the pitch, I don't have an issue with any player asking for a transfer, just like I don't have an issue with Blackpool accepting a bid on a player that doesn't want to leave.
 
I'm sure we're capable of negotiating a couple of deals at the same time. I can't see Comolli on the phone to Ajax 24 hours of the day ;)

The way its going with Ajax continuing to refuse to let him go for anything under 25m , we may just need him to be on the phone 24 hours a day :D
 
At the end of the day it's to up Blackpool's chairman and manager to accept or reject the bid. From then on, the question is whether or not Adam is the sort of player to throw a stroppy and play woeful for the rest of the season.
 
Blackpool are also paying a player they value at £14m-46m just £9k per week and Adam had to take Blackpool to court at the end of last season to get his £20k bonus for helping Blackpool avoid relegation.

It works both way. As I said earlier, providing Adam gives 100% on the pitch, I don't have an issue with any player asking for a transfer, just like I don't have an issue with Blackpool accepting a bid on a player that doesn't want to leave.

I'm not quite sure what that has to do with Holloway being ****ed off though, which was my original point.

People seemed to be surprised as to why he maybe ****ed off at it all, that and the fact he has come out with some typical Holloway quotes.

What did anyone expect?
 
It's Holloway though, has he ever done anything in football without massive amounts of passion being involved.

Weeb has kindly explained the situation, Blackpool and Holloway give him a chance, Holloway makes him the main man of the team and club captain, he has a decent season and the big boys come knocking, his head gets turned.

You can understand why Holloway might be slightly ****ed off, no?

Especially with that pitiful bid :/

I know, but I'd just thought the chairman would have a word and get Holloway to calm down a bit.

I understand why he's annoyed, but the public out cry?

Just tell Liverpool they need to submit a much improved bid.

The bloke just does not have a sense of humour, I tried and failed several years ago and find it easier to plonk him on ignore.

haha! I often have tried just reading his posts and every so often have a crack and a debate, fails, he's just very long winded and often mis guided :p
 
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