January Transfer Window 2010/2011 Season Rumours/Signings

G|mp · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:43

BaZ87 said:
You don't remember correctly. It was £20m

You failed to mention that included Garcia as well, who was probably worth 8

Tom84 · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:45

BaZ87 said:
Yea, it's a real surprise we haven't accepted a bid for our best player while we're trying to rebuild our squad.

Thought Gerrard was your best player? You cant have two

BaZ87 · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:45

G|mp said:
You failed to mention that included Garcia as well, who was probably worth 8

You failed completely.

Garcia was a seperate deal and was sold for £4m. So it's £20m or £16m + Garcia (valued at £4m)

Tom84 said:
Thought Gerrard was your best player? You cant have two

Maybe 18 months ago he was but not anymore.

G|mp · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:47

BaZ87 said:
You failed completely.

Garcia was a seperate deal and was sold for £4m. So it's £20m or £16m + Garcia (valued at £4m)

Maybe 18 months ago he was but not anymore.

Balls was it a separate deal, it all went through at the same time

Tom84 · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:48

BaZ87 said:
Maybe 18 months ago he was but not anymore.

Surely on this seasons form he's been your best player?

BaZ87 · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:49

G|mp said:
Balls was it a separate deal, it all went through at the same time

Yes. However it was suggested that giving them first option on Garcia was a condition of us buying Torres.

edit: no Tom. Under Hodgson Soto was our best player. But now we're a football team again, Torres is starting to get back to his best.

edit 2: and there are some suggestions that this bid from Chelsea isn't clear cut and that they might be using it to put pressure on Atletico to lower their price for Aguero.

Jigga · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:55

Chelsea just had a bid rejected by liverpool for Torres i hate chelsea

DanH84 · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:56

it wouldn't matter if Torres cost 20m-24m or 30mill he was still a bargain for them. It was all the other crap they bought that was the issue.

35mill is about right for Torres imo simply due to uncertainty over his fitness.

Adrianr · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:58

Jigga said:
Chelsea just had a bid rejected by liverpool for Torres i hate chelsea

Lol.

Azza · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:58

Wonder if he'll hand in a transfer request...

Pigeon_Killer · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:58

Azza said:
Wonder if he'll hand in a transfer request...

This isn't Rooney we're talking about

Purdy · 27 Jan 2011 at 23:59

Athletico must be stupid as erm something if they think thats chelseas attempt to look else where.

Cecil with h&g would have bitten chelseas arm off there, then again he may still leave in the summer.

Purdy · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:00

DanH84 said:
it wouldn't matter if Torres cost 20m-24m or 30mill he was still a bargain for them. It was all the other crap they bought that was the issue.

35mill is about right for Torres imo simply due to uncertainty over his fitness.

Yep, didn't have money to **** about on players and only 2-3 big signings, pity we never got first choice targets.

BaZ87 · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:00

DanH84 said:
35mill is about right for Torres imo simply due to uncertainty over his fitness.

I'm pretty certain you'd want more than that for Rooney and since signing for us, Torres and Rooney's injury records are more or less the same.

Their strike rates aren't the same though

DanH84 · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:05

Purdy said:
Yep, didn't have money to **** about on players and only 2-3 big signings, pity we never got first choice targets.

shouldn't have wasted the money on crap really but what's done is done and it'd take the thread off topic.

DanH84 · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:08

BaZ87 said:
I'm pretty certain you'd want more than that for Rooney and since signing for us, Torres and Rooney's injury records are more or less the same.

Their strike rates aren't the same though

Nor are their trophy hauls.

Yes I'd want more for Rooney but I wouldn't expect it to be Ronaldo type money. You also have to look at the realities of the situation. I think summer is a vital transfer window for you in order to show some ability to get back into champions league contention or else £35mill might start to look a bit tasty.

Purdy · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:12

DanH84 said:
Nor are their trophy hauls.

Yes I'd want more for Rooney but I wouldn't expect it to be Ronaldo type money. You also have to look at the realities of the situation. I think summer is a vital transfer window for you in order to show some ability to get back into champions league contention or else £35mill might start to look a bit tasty.

Doubt they'd cash in on 35mil on Torres if they want to actually do something, unless they bought us at a cheap price, asset strip and sell on, doubt that's happening and I expect proper investment with the players who have been disappointing on huge wages out, cole being the first, unless he turns it around now.

BaZ87 · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:15

DanH84 said:
You also have to look at the realities of the situation. I think summer is a vital transfer window for you in order to show some ability to get back into champions league contention or else £35mill might start to look a bit tasty.

Our situation counts for nothing providing he's still regarded as a world class player and the demand there is for his services is still there. Unlike other clubs, we're under no pressure to sell him to service debt anymore.

I agree that the likelyhood of keeping hold of him will be determined by the next 2 transfer windows but I can't see that affecting his transfer fee.

edit: It's been reported for a while that Torres's agent negotiated a buyout clause in Torres's contract with Purslow in the summer so if that's true we might not have complete control of the situation, however the clause is believed to be over £50m and some say only allows him to move abroad.

DanH84 · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:17

Purdy said:
Doubt they'd cash in on 35mil on Torres if they want to actually do something, unless they bought us at a cheap price, asset strip and sell on, doubt that's happening and I expect proper investment with the players who have been disappointing on huge wages out, cole being the first, unless he turns it around now.

I don't doubt they want to improve you. However it will be for them to weigh up how best to get the squad in the CL again as without that revenue stream things will be very tricky for you. It might be that in vpnvert with the manager they view selling someone for x amount of cash (Torres in this instance) when coupled with the money they were already going to invest would leave you with a stronger squad overall. Suppose for a minute you got £35mill for him, signed Suarez for £20million and then with the money they were already going to invest you still had £50million left over to sign others to strengthen. It's at least worthy of consideration.

Tom84 · 28 Jan 2011 at 00:19

The question is will Torres want to stay at Liverpool?

No Champions League this season or next (I cant remember if you were in it or not last season), not winning any trophies (hasn't won anything at Liverpool yet has he?)

Not much fun when he see's what all his buddies at Barcelona are up to is it?

From an outsiders perspective he hasn't looked happy this season, that may have been all Woy's fault though, seems like everything else wrong with Liverpool is