New PS3 firmware 3.56

rp2000 said:
Cool story, bro :)


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The point I was making is that he/others may very well be using more interesting/useful homebrew, but it's not showing on PSN because it's 'stealthed'.

I love the way this is such a sore subject with certain people on here. The way it's going, hacked PS3's have to be kept well away from PSN, so what is the problem? :confused:
 
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DreXeL said:
The point I was making is that he/others may very well be using more interesting/useful homebrew, but it's not showing on PSN because it's 'stealthed'.

I love the way this is such a sore subject with certain people on here. The way it's going, hacked PS3's have to be kept well away from PSN, so what is the problem? :confused:
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I know what you meant, I was just kidding. I stated earlier as long as the hacks stay off PSN, I am not bothered. But, as I also stated, you and a few others constantly banging on "SONY HACKED NOTHING CAN BE DONE" is only gonna annoy people. Moreso now something has been done. I don't need to read IRC chat logs and hacker code to know that PSN is safer today than it was 3 weeks (or whenever) ago this started.


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rp2000 said:
I But, as I also stated, you and a few others constantly banging on "SONY HACKED NOTHING CAN BE DONE" is only gonna annoy people. Moreso now something has been done.
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I appreciate it may be annoying, but the reason I have kept repeating it is because others don't seem to understand. When I say that there is nothing Sony can do, I mean there is nothing they can do to completely stop homebrew on current consoles. It'll even be possible on a console running 3.56 or any other FW revisions, but it will likely require downgrading by direct flashing of the NAND/NOR.

Of course there is plenty Sony can do wrt PSN access (and have done with 3.56), but I've never said any different. I'm simply talking about running homebrew on the console.
 
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DreXeL said:
I appreciate it may be annoying, but the reason I have kept repeating it is because others don't seem to understand. When I say that there is nothing Sony can do, I mean there is nothing they can do to completely stop homebrew on current consoles. It'll even be possible on a console running 3.56 or any other FW revisions, but it will likely require downgrading by direct flashing of the NAND/NOR.

Of course there is plenty Sony can do wrt PSN access (and have done with 3.56), but I've never said any different. I'm simply talking about running homebrew on the console.
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You just don't know what you are talking about.
 
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Memphis said:
And you do?

No offence, but between yourself and Drexel, I know who's opinion I respect one hell of a lot more!
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I really respect you.

lol

In regards to the comment I made, it was because these people don't know anything about PS3 hacking.
 
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Memphis said:
And you do?

No offence, but between yourself and Drexel, I know who's opinion I respect one hell of a lot more!
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I still cant see what some people are arguing about TBH, we dont know all the measures sony have put in to 3.56, the hackers dont know and prob wont know. The people who want to use their PS3 for homebrew, as no one will ever use it for pirating games:rolleyes:, still can aslong as it keeps to 3.55 and not on PSN. Those who think its the root of all evil can be safe in the knowledge that their online gaming wont be comprimised and they can carry on as they were. Do find it funny that those people on my PSN which were using multiman backup loader havent been on line for several days, pretty much since 3.56 came out, i wonder why?
 
Nanoman said:
You just don't know what you are talking about.
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Go on then, point out anything I've said that's wrong. Oh wait, you can't. You are coming across as the rabid fanboy that you are, getting all up in arms because the security of your beloved PS3 has been compromised beyond repair. I don't profess to know every in and out of the depths of console hacking, but I can assure you that anything I do say on the subject is from my own understanding and research, and is not and never will be just repeating stuff that I've read on hacking forums.
 
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DreXeL said:
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Go on then, point out anything I've said that's wrong. Oh wait, you can't. You are coming across as the rabid fanboy that you are, getting all up in arms about because the security of your beloved PS3 has been compromised beyond repair. I don't profess to know every in and out of the depths of console hacking, but I can assure you that anything I do say on the subject is from my own understanding and research, and is not and never will be just repeating stuff that I've read.
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You see if it was compromised beyond repair than how come FW 3.56 wont work with homebrew as such? How come they are not using PSN? Why on every homebrew site are they saying keep away from 3.56? What you should say is that all PS3 pre 3.56 maybe be compromised any PS3 after that there is a big chance that HB will be locked out and not be able to use PSN at all. Of course this could all change at some point when it gets hacked and sony then releases another OFW and we all go around the same circle again.
 
DreXeL said:
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Go on then, point out anything I've said that's wrong. Oh wait, you can't. You are coming across as the rabid fanboy that you are, getting all up in arms because the security of your beloved PS3 has been compromised beyond repair. I don't profess to know every in and out of the depths of console hacking, but I can assure you that anything I do say on the subject is from my own understanding and research, and is not and never will be just repeating stuff that I've read on hacking forums.
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Are you sure you're not a Virgin?
;)
 
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You see if it was compromised beyond repair than how come FW 3.56 wont work with homebrew as such? How come they are not using PSN? Why on every homebrew site are they saying keep away from 3.56? What you should say is that all PS3 pre 3.56 maybe be compromised any PS3 after that there is a big chance that HB will be locked out and not be able to use PSN at all. Of course this could all change at some point when it gets hacked and sony then releases another OFW and we all go around the same circle again.
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It's compromised beyond repair because even with 3.56+ it can be downgraded with a NAND/NOR flasher. Not easy, not 'noob' friendly, but it will always be possible, because unlike the 360 current PS3 consoles cannot be permanently fixed with a firmware update, there will always be the option to flash the NAND/NOR and go back to a previous FW. If Sony had been smart enough to use e-fuses like the 360 (which make downgrading impossible) they could have simply blown an e-fuse with 3.56 and then there would be no way back.

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Are you sure you're not a Virgin?
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LOL, yeah with a wife and four miracle kids ;)
 
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Haven't they already got the keys from 3.56 anyway? I don't think it will be to long till we see a 'stealth' CFW and it will just be a constant cat and mouse chase.

EDIT: Seems not but i can't see it taking too long for them to hack it again.
 
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It's compromised beyond repair because even with 3.56+ it can be downgraded with a NAND/NOR flasher. Unlike the 360 it cannot be permanently fixed with a firmware update, there will always be the option to flash the NAND/NOR on current hardware. If Sony had been smart enough to use e-fuses like the 360 they could have simply blown and e-fuse with 3.56 and then there would be no way back.



LOL, yeah with a wife and four miracle kids ;)
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They have efuse in the PS3, thats why many people at first was concerned the fact that sony could disable thier PS3 at will. Whos to know what FW 3.6+ may bring in regards to security i see this as stage 1, getting CFW/Cheats off PSN. This was causing the biggest outrage between non law breaking PS3 owners ;), and i think their upset was justified. Next I see the console/account bannings happening, then some kind of lock out for what ever revsion FW for offline games, this could be on game disks so those without the net can still play games.
 
Soulja said:
Haven't they already got the keys from 3.56 anyway? I don't think it will be to long till we see a 'stealth' CFW and it will just be a constant cat and mouse chase.
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Only public keys, Sony fixed the 'random number' fail so private keys cannot be calculated like they can with 3.55 and below. Therefore, at the moment, stuff can't be signed to work with 3.56.
 
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This explains a bit more :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/29/ps3-firmware-3-56-hacked-in-less-than-a-day-sonys-lawyers-look/

Sony's taken some strong steps against PS3 cracking in the past week -- not only has it taken to the courts and won a temporary restraining order against Geohot and fail0verflow for cracking the console, but it also released firmware 3.56, which locked things down again. Unfortunately, that restraining order doesn't mean anyone else has to stop a-crackin', and wouldn't you know it: 3.56 was cracked open in less than a day by KaKaRoToKS, who was behind one of the first 3.55 custom firmwares. Now that the 3.56 signing keys are out, we'd guess updated custom firmware is soon to come -- and we'd bet Sony's lawsuit will just inspire an entirely new wave of people to jailbreak once those hit the scene. Way to put that genie back in the bottle, Sony.

Update: We're hearing that new custom firmware isn't on the table quite yet, because Sony changed most of the locks, and is reportedly actually storing the all-important ECDSA private key with random-number cryptography this time around. Be warned: if you upgrade to 3.56, there's no easy way back down. In related news, Github complied with a DMCA takedown notice to remove KaKaRoToKS's repositories, so you'll have to head on over to Gitorious (at our more coverage link) to get at the fail0verflow tools.
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msmalls74 said:
They have efuse in the PS3, thats why many people at first was concerned the fact that sony could disable thier PS3 at will. Whos to know what FW 3.6+ may bring in regards to security i see this as stage 1, getting CFW/Cheats off PSN. This was causing the biggest outrage between non law breaking PS3 owners ;), and i think their upset was justified. Next I see the console/account bannings happening, then some kind of lock out for what ever revsion FW for offline games, this could be on game disks so those without the net can still play games.
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It's not the same implementation as the 360 though, efuses don't get blown at every FW update like the 360.
 
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