*****SANDYBRIDGE MOTHERBOARD CHIPSET ISSUE*****

[duncanm]

Personally attacked? Are you having a laugh?

and stop being so wet.

Initially I was scaremongering because I was asking if there was any risk of data loss, I was told quite categorically by yourself that there was zero risk. Now there is an admission that there is some risk.

If instead someone had just said the risks are the same as a power outage instead of hostility then this storm in a tea cup wouldn't have occurred.

 

[koolpc]

After the initial round of panic etc i am sure that everyone now knows the score and i am certain that things will end up being sorted smoothly. Pointless worrying about it now after all the info in the above threads. I was peeved at first and now completely confident that it is just a storm in a Tcup.

 

[Ginger-Menace]

i keep coming on here to check update and new info from gibbo and nath, but all im seeing is everyone ripping on them and clogging up the thread with useless posts that have the answeres all over here. sorry for the rant but when you have to read through 16 pages of complaining to get to the info its a bit frustrating /rant,
good work gibbo and nath! surprised you havent gone on a rage lol

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I'm not even sure why there are still people thinking the boards shouldn't be sold...
A good few in this topic were just using it as an excuse to get in some petty digs at the shop.

Would maybe be a good idea to just summarise the key points, and link some of the manufacturer quotes into a new locked sticky.

Initially I was scaremongering because I was asking if there was any risk of data loss

But you weren't really asking, you were telling us all how you'd have to buy new drives and posting speculation.
You were scaremongering.

 

[MikeHiow]

How about explaining why Newegg's warnings are unwarranted scaremongering and backing that up with some evidence.

Or guaranteeing that OcUK will meet all costs associated with any data loss due to the faulty ports because you're so confident that there is 100% no risk of data loss. ( Yes this sentence is an obvious troll )

All I have done is voiced concerns and asked questions which obviously you don't want aired in public given the hostile responses.

BTW I haven't questioned the value of SB or that for many people it's a complete non issue since they don't need to use the ports. I haven't suggested people shouldn't buy SB systems either. I shall be solving my own issue without drama by buying a SATA controller now it appears to be potentially necessary. Enjoying the system and writing off the cost as being roughly equalled out by the fact that I end up with a later rev motherboard.

What I do have an issue with is that daring to ask questions you don't want to hear has gotten me personally attacked by OcUK staff. I didn't even disagree... just asked questions which were brushed off rudely.

A simple we don't know, Intel haven't told us anything specific would have been a fine answer that anyone could respect.

Well at the least I know my custom isn't welcome here and will be placing future purchases elsewhere.

Newegg released a video showing us exactly the same as OcUK is telling us. It basically demonstrates that the two 6Gb/s ports and any additional ports added by the motherboard manufacturer are safe to use, and that you should continue to use these ports.

They also state that if you absolutely have to use any of the affected ports that you should connect your optical drive before anything else.

 

[koolpc]

How about closing this thread now its done its job, make a new one with all the info in there that people need to see, make it a sticky and lock it.

 

[duncanm]

Newegg released a video showing us exactly the same as OcUK is telling us. It basically demonstrates that the two 6Gb/s ports and any additional ports added by the motherboard manufacturer are safe to use, and that you should continue to use these ports.

They also state that if you absolutely have to use any of the affected ports that you should connect your optical drive before anything else.

Not an option if you have 7 SATA devices on there.

They don't put 8 SATA ports on a motherboard for show, some of us actually use them.

And yeah, I was ****ed off and worried that there might be risks of data loss ( not knowing if there could or could not be data loss means there is a risk of data loss, that's what risk means ) so thought I'd have to buy new drives. Obviously instead of new drives there was an obvious and far cheaper solution.

Doesn't change the fact that I was saying there was a risk, yet OcUK started saying there was no risk then back tracked and said there was a risk.

Yet I'm the one in the wrong?

 

[Cool Breeze]

The recall is a no cost option to customers and manufacturers are working on a service of drop B3 board off with customer and collect B2 board, meaning the only downtime is the time it takes end-user to swap their board out.

Now thats what I was waiting to hear....!

Now everyone stop complaining, you can't get a better resolution than this

 

[Gibbo]

Not an option if you have 7 SATA devices on there.

They don't put 8 SATA ports on a motherboard for show, some of us actually use them.

And yeah, I was ****ed off and worried that there might be risks of data loss ( not knowing if there could or could not be data loss means there is a risk of data loss, that's what risk means ) so thought I'd have to buy new drives. Obviously instead of new drives there was an obvious and far cheaper solution.

Doesn't change the fact that I was saying there was a risk, yet OcUK started saying there was no risk then back tracked and said there was a risk.

Yet I'm the one in the wrong?

Hold on a minute?

I mentioned the data loss thing a good day or two ago, I've never said there is no risk, just that its just data been written too at the time and the chances of it happening are slim, thats been my stance and still is. But I've not said there is *NO RISK*

 

[MikeHiow]

Not an option if you have 7 SATA devices on there.

They don't put 8 SATA ports on a motherboard for show, some of us actually use them.

And yeah, I was ****ed off and worried that there might be risks of data loss ( not knowing if there could or could not be data loss means there is a risk of data loss, that's what risk means ) so thought I'd have to buy new drives. Obviously instead of new drives there was an obvious and far cheaper solution.

Doesn't change the fact that I was saying there was a risk, yet OcUK started saying there was no risk then back tracked and said there was a risk.

Yet I'm the one in the wrong?

Do you have SB setup yet, or were you just looking to buy?

The fact you have 7 SATA devices isn't exactly common place. You are fully aware of the situation, so you need to take the decision whether you believe it is worth risking it.

If your data is so important then it shouldn't even be a consideration, but either way, WD, Samsung etc. provide no warranties for your data if a hard drive fails, so one assumes all of this data is backed up anyway?

You are in the wrong because of your persistent whining in this thread, which is breaching on troll territory. I've just been back and read a few more of your posts in this thread and many of them appear to have the single function of provoking a reaction. If this is not the case, perhaps you ought to think about how you come across on internet forums.

If you've not got an SB setup yet, you have the option of not buying, living with a "mere" four SATA ports, or grabbing a four port PCI/PCI-E sata controller - they can be had for as little as £15 FFS.

The problem you cause by persisting on your current crash course through this thread is that the rest of us who just want to keep up-to-date with the situation have to trawl through pages of drivel and are met with staff who are fed up of the crap in this thread, making it more difficult to get sensible questions answered.

 

[duncanm]

Exactly. And the fact that it doesn't kill HDDs

Mike, go back and read that I do have SB and I am purchasing a SATA controller, it's even quoted on this page where I state I don't think the sky is falling and I shall be enjoying my system.

As far as I'm concerned the only drama has been trying to get straight enough answers out of people to judge whether I should to buy a SATA controller or not.

 

[MikeHiow]

There is no evidence to suggest it does kill hard drives, though?

 

[duncanm]

There is no evidence to suggest it does kill hard drives, though?

And I was called pedantic

That was Nath's response to my question as to whether there was a risk of data loss, so how else is one supposed to interpret it?

As an aside, Gibbo I think you've obviously been working hard and doing you're best to be professional in what must be a pretty stressful time, you also pointed out the obvious cheap fix.

 

[easyrider]

" The problem? A transistor with a thin gate oxide being driven by too high of a voltage. The aforementioned transistor is present in the clock tree circuitry of the 3Gbps SATA ports that branch off of all 6-series chipsets. The 6Gbps ports are unaffected. Over a period of 3 years, at least 5% of all these chipsets will have some failure on the 3Gbps SATA ports. The failure could start in the form of errors on the SATA link and ultimately result in an unusable SATA port. No damage to attached hardware should result."

 

[ChaosdaJoker]

According to this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12354263

Only 100,000 of these faulty boards where actually put into new systems, that covers PC and Laptops it also states that they have already started making the new boards with the fixed chipset and expect it to be ready for end of Feb, so id say the replacements will take place 1st couple of weeks in March,

About 5% of PCs using the faulty part would have failed during a three-year period, said Intel.

Good show OCUK for keeping us uptodate, ill check back in a few weeks and if you have the newer boards in stock ill be ordering by new SB setup

Take it easy.

 

[Gibbo]

According to this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12354263

Only 100,000 of these faulty boards where actually put into new systems, that covers PC and Laptops it also states that they have already started making the new boards with the fixed chipset and expect it to be ready for end of Feb, so id say the replacements will take place 1st couple of weeks in March,

About 5% of PCs using the faulty part would have failed during a three-year period, said Intel.

Good show OCUK for keeping us uptodate, ill check back in a few weeks and if you have the newer boards in stock ill be ordering by new SB setup

Take it easy.

Replacements happening in March, no chance I am afraid unless something seriously changes.

Intel shall be sending the revised P67/H67 chipsets to motherboard vendors in 2-3 weeks, so towards end of february. It then takes the motherboard vendor 6-8 weeks to manufacturer the new boards. It then takes a further 2 weeks for the boards to ship from factory to their destinations around the world.

Just spoken to both Asus and Gigabyte, who are both saying replacements won't happen until April/May.

 

[iratekid2]

Talk about molehills and mountains!!! I only hope they sort out the bios for P67 boards when they do the next batches.

 

[Brumboy]

I have an Asus P8P78 motherboard & i5 2500k. So my motherboard and CPU are affected by this problem?

I'm not very updated on these things but from what I've read it's basically to do with the SATA ports on the motherboard?

I have a 2TB hard drive connected to the 3gb/s port, I'm not sure which SATA ports it's connected too as my computer was built for me, is there any way to find out myself?

SAMSUNG HD204UI ATA Device
Manufacturer SAMSUNG
Business Unit/Brand Desktop
Model Capacity For This Specific Drive 200GB
SATA type SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
Device type Fixed
ATA Standard ATA8-ACS
48-bit LBA Supported
Serial Number S2H7J9FZC17992
Interface SATA
Capacity 1954GB
Real size 2,000,398,934,016 bytes

From Speccy.

And is this problem serious enough that I'll need to replace it or am I ok? I can't really do with no computer for a few weeks!

 

[~Mike~]

How about closing this thread now its done its job, make a new one with all the info in there that people need to see, make it a sticky and lock it.

+1

 

[Westyfield2]

Just spoken to both Asus and Gigabyte, who are both saying replacements won't happen until April/May.

Gibbo, just for the sake of clarity and to end all the bickering here....

1. Will replacements be regardless of whether your Motherboard was purchased pre or post Intel's announcement of the potential issue?
2. Will replacements be regardless of whether your Motherboard is currently exibiting the issue (is anyone's yet?) or could potentially develop it in a years time?