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what are we expecting to see ( next gen )

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What are we likely to see from the next gen cards from AMD & Nvidia
what will we see that we dont in the current top end cards ?
compared to a 580 or 6950xfire in terms of performance are we likely to see a big gap in performance appear ?

Do you think if there is a big difference will the cards be priced very high because of this? or will the prices be steady and competitive ? £ 419 for a 580 / similar price for 580's next gen equivelant ?

i know there is no crystal ball, just whats your thoughts ?
 
Nvidia are touting 3 to 4 times the performance per watt compared to Fermi, could be some bull in that but I'm fully expecting a huge performance jump over a 580 on the 28nm.
 
Next gen from Nvidia has the codename "Kepler", 28nm GPU should be a flying machine!!!

Supposedly due out this year but after the nightmare that was the Fermi launch I wouldnt hold my breath.

The main problem is not the advancement of GPU technology, its the lack of properly optimized games for the PC.

Current games such as Black Ops and Dead Space 2 do not properly take advantage of the high end GPU power available to PC gamers. There are a few games due out soon that I hope will change this (Crysis 2, Deus Ex: Human Rev) but realistically until the next gen consoles are released upcoming GFX technology like Kepler look amazing on paper but are ultimately held back by game development.

More GPU horsepower will be useful for those running multi-monitor setups such as Eyefinity or Nvidia 3D Surround...but they are not to everyones liking.

PC gamers such as myself running a single 1900x1200 res monitor will not be ables to harness the benefits of this new GPU technology until games are developed to utilize all this GPU power
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
^^ That will be BF3 then.
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I really hope so...the last few years it has really been bugging me that we spend hundreds of pounds on high-end hardware to play poorly optimized or "last gen" DX9 games.

DX10 was a complete anti-climax apart from Crysis, and DX11 titles seem to be very slow in materializing...again due to games being developed primarily for consoles.

I dont want to spend a couple of grand every 2-3 years on a high spec machine to run benchmarks and 3D Mark.

I really hope that the next batch of games coming up for release such as Battlefield 3, Max Payne 3, Brink, Deus Ex and so on help me to justify what I spend keeping my PC in the "high-end" bracket!!!

Also to clarify....I have nothing against consoles, I understand why they exist and why they are so popular...I just personally don't like gaming on them
 
The reason why developers don't make games that require high-end GPU's is that they are going to make less profit if they are marketing their game to a small bracket of games (lets say 25%)
 
Chips a touch smaller, but easier to make with double the processing power. Power consumption will be around <80% of current levels.
 
smaller die (already done to death shrinks to 28nm process for both red and green teams

drop in power consumption circa 10-15%
20-25% gain in performance over current ranges
 
Think next gen should be quite an improvement over the ones now along with a new architecture for AMD. Both the 6xxx and 5xx series are more stopgap cards as TSMC cancelled 32nm iirc.
 
I really have not even seen a need to upgrade my 4870 that is heavily overclocked. It's still fine in most cases. So for me I'm more or less waiting for the right games to give me the signal to upgrade. half-life 3 anyone?
 
hopefully radeon 7000 series single card will be equivelant to crossfire 5970 :D

I just build a new gaming machine with a 6950 in december 2010 so I won't be upgrading till 2014 and the 10000 series GPU :eek:
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah well I'm confident BF3 is going to push PC hardware hard, this is no BC2 port.
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But BF3 is still using Frostbite 2 engine, which powers BC2, ok it will have a few more DX11 goodies tacked on, but to think you will need a 28nm Gfx card to max it out is being way over optimistic...unless you need to run it over 2 or more monitors...

Im betting as long as you stick to 1 monitor and 1080p res or less, anything from a 560/6950 upwards will be all you need.

Face it guys, nothing will fundamentily change on the Gfx front until a new gen of consoles arrive....and god knows when that will be.
 
I personally think devs are going to start pushing PC development this year, its already been mentioned numerous times that there is only so much they can do with consoles and the PC plays a massive part in the gaming market whether the doom and gloomers like it or not. We'll start seeing PC gaming being pushed forward this year and the PC versions of games wont be ported as much as devs will start to take advantage of the newer hardware, surely they want to push things forward anyway, theres nothing console gaming can offer other than what has already been seen in terms of graphics
 
Bunyan said:
I really have not even seen a need to upgrade my 4870 that is heavily overclocked. It's still fine in most cases. So for me I'm more or less waiting for the right games to give me the signal to upgrade. half-life 3 anyone?
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I don't blame you. Just upgraded from a 1Gb 4870 and yes, the difference is there as you'd expect but contrary to what a synthetic benchmark tells me, I wouldn't say that the difference is mind-blowing. I upgraded as the 4870 is going into a 2nd rig I'm building 2nd hand for the bairn (well, she's 21 but still the bairn!).
 
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