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Is there any point? I find it better just to laugh at him.
Motoring: Modern Britain
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Is there any point? I find it better just to laugh at him.
Accident figures have NOT shown an increase in accidents upon removal of a speedcamera ...
Show me something that states otherwise!
In fact, one study in USA found that when a road was changed from a 60 to a 70 (I think, may have been 65 to 75) the number of accidents went down
I can remember biting lead fishing weights onto a line all the time and enjoying the squidgy feeling of them in my teeth. Could explain a lot though, maybe I accidently swallowed one.
But this is about cars init and I don't smoke, drink, eat junk food.......though I do have a passion for eating asbestos and I lied about the drinking bit.........and junk food.
I can remember biting lead fishing weights onto a line all the time and enjoying the squidgy feeling of them in my teeth. Could explain a lot though, maybe I accidently swallowed one.
Just look at me after 7 lead soldiers and a bottle of scotch, i blame it for my complete failure
Im considering an experiment of driving while on lead soldiers next.
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Excuse the further derailment of your thread Housey but this is aimed at the points made by rpyt.
I just caught an episode of Police, Camera, Action on ITV1 which focused solely on speeding and it's consequences which, although are blatant and widely known, are not really taken into account seriously enough by the average driver.
The most enlightening point was made by showing the result on one crash which was caused by someone exceeding the limit and crippling a baby whilst simultaneously destroying the life of one family and, I should hope, his own. It is an extreme case of irresponsibility but in your "utopia" of no limits this could/would become a more frequent occurrence.
This and many other accidents occurred in our time now where speed limits exist so I can't see how you think removing speed limits is in anyway a reasonable, safe or even plausible idea regardless of giving drivers extra training or more stringent testing.
The episode was a repeat and isn't on the ITV Player thingy but it is being repeated again on ITV4 at 21:00 18-February and I seriously urge you to watch it.
Here is a brief summary I have found but it doesn't come close to supplying the impact which seeing the victims in the episode does. Please give it a watch so you understand that driving within what you think are your limits still does not prepare you (or anyone else) for any of the frequent unknown hazards on our roads, maybe the consequences in this episode will force some sense into your head.
I don't mean to be patronising by trying to get the point across to you by showing you a TV program, but... I can't think of a way to finish that sentence without calling you a muppet.
I have also found a download link, if anyone requires it trust me.
I just caught an episode of Police, Camera, Action on ITV1 which focused solely on speeding and it's consequences which, although are blatant and widely known, are not really taken into account seriously enough by the average driver.
The most enlightening point was made by showing the result on one crash which was caused by someone exceeding the limit and crippling a baby whilst simultaneously destroying the life of one family and, I should hope, his own. It is an extreme case of irresponsibility but in your "utopia" of no limits this could/would become a more frequent occurrence.
This and many other accidents occurred in our time now where speed limits exist so I can't see how you think removing speed limits is in anyway a reasonable, safe or even plausible idea regardless of giving drivers extra training or more stringent testing.
The episode was a repeat and isn't on the ITV Player thingy but it is being repeated again on ITV4 at 21:00 18-February and I seriously urge you to watch it.
Here is a brief summary I have found but it doesn't come close to supplying the impact which seeing the victims in the episode does. Please give it a watch so you understand that driving within what you think are your limits still does not prepare you (or anyone else) for any of the frequent unknown hazards on our roads, maybe the consequences in this episode will force some sense into your head.
I don't mean to be patronising by trying to get the point across to you by showing you a TV program, but... I can't think of a way to finish that sentence without calling you a muppet.
I have also found a download link, if anyone requires it trust me.
i thoguht the program was completely stupid.
the idiot traffic copper on the bridging jizzing about catching someone at 85mph
"im not catching speeders, im saving lives" i cant beleive they let people on TV without brains.
then the other idiots boasting about speeding. the moron boasting about doing 120 in a 30, obviously scripted for wow and shock factor. readers of the Sun would have loved it.
this bits hilarious
The shock from finding out the stopping distance at 58mph is longer than at 50mph ?
Do me a favour.
I don't think that's hilarious at all? I think it's quite interesting. 12 metres extra for only doing 8mph over has surprised me!
my head almost exploded when i saw the copper zapping the car in lane 3, who was overtaking a car in lane 2 whilst lane 1 was completely clear
driving in the wrong lane is dangerous IMO as it can cause traffic to bunch up etc, people have to slow down and the likiness of an accident increased
another car he zapped in lane 3, this time overtaking 2 cars in lane 2... the cars in lane 2 were separated by about half a car length
.... tailgating is obviously not dangerous.
That means PC Nairn didn't hit anything at all doing 50mph, but the guy doing 58mph hit the child/car/whatever still doing 30 mph. I've got to admit, this has surprised me!
EDIT: However, the one thing i don't like about that program is how they lump "speeders" all into one category. They parade around a bunch of morons who do triple the speed limit and try to paint them as your average speeder, rather than the massive minority. Most "speeders" only do 5-10mph over the limit max.
we had this debate when rG-Tom had his smash on the motorway
a 530i can stop from 70mph in roughly 70m, but from 60mph its 54m
Thats a 16m difference from a 10mph speed difference. Obviously as you go faster the reaction time gets bigger, and the car is harder to stop, so a 12m difference between 50 and 58 is about right
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18225936
the test was rigged such that the point they both reacted would enable a car doing 50mph to stop clean, and a car doing 58 not to.
In the real world, the point at which you react, isn't always rigged to occur at the exact point that will give you sufficient stopping distance from 50, but not at 58mph. Its heavily biased and just peddling home office rubbish about speed kills.
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And?
One speed limit increase, on one road, in one country doesn't prove a point.
Come on, you like your science etc, you know that one positive result can't be the basis for a theory/fact.
I'm sorry, i literally don't have a clue what you are talking about. How was it rigged? I agree that the test was set up in a way to demonstrate the difference a little bit extra speed can make, but this is a far cry from "being rigged". Again, i have no idea what you're talking about. This is a simply test to show the difference a small amount of extra speed can have on your overall stopping distance.I haven't watched the show so i don't know how "scientific" their test was, but were they using the same car, tyres, brakes etc? Or was one of them a BMW M3 with CS3's on and the other a Ford Fiesta with Linglongs on?
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GCSE Double Science
I'm still enjoying the roads out there, but my car is really only for evening and weekend use so I saw less crap driving and spent a lot less time on the road. Still, limits everywhere where not required and the sometimes other road uses are a danger to themselves and those of us who are competant and safe when out for a fun drive.
Would rather commute on the train and leave the car for fun times and tracking !
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the point they had to brake was a cone set out in the road wasn't it ?
Clearly they just measured the stopping distance at 50, then put the cone at that point.
Get 2 identical courses, get one to go round at 50, one to go round at 58, if the cone for braking is on the limit of the 50mph braking zone, the car doing 58mph isn't going to make it obviously ?
Move the cone further back, and the car doing 58mph can brake sooner and make it ?
It just means one thing, get better brake pads/discs to aid your speeding
up rated, race use only pads... with reduced response from cold