Original Cozzie

ubersonic · 16 Mar 2011 at 14:53

Lopéz said:
Er, like what?

In comparison to the Sierra or the Escort?

[TW]Fox · 16 Mar 2011 at 14:58

ubersonic said:
In comparison to the Sierra or the Escort?

So which Jap cars had more power and cost less money without looking chavvish then?

ubersonic · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:02

[TW]Fox;18682330 said:
So which Jap cars had more power and cost less money without looking chavvish then?

In comparison to the Sierra or the Escort?

Ill admit "more power" was a mistake, I should have said "roughly the same power"

[TW]Fox · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:05

ubersonic said:
Ill admit "more power" was a mistake

Glad we cleared that up then.

ubersonic · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:06

yeah, some had a bit more power, some had a bit less

naefeart · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:08

ubersonic said:
Never really got the ford cosworth scene, you could get Jap cars with more power for less money that didnt look anywhere near as chavish. The RS200 looked awesome though...

I'm guessing you didn't grow up watching them on the motorsport scene, or see them when they were brand new in the showrooms?

I remember years ago one when the first UK Police Force to buy a Cosworth (for chasing joy riders etc) had it stolen from their compund before they'd even used it.

I've always wanted a Cossie (RS500, Escort, 4wd Saphire, 3door or 2wd Saphire in that order), but it was never to be. By the time I was old enough they were becoming old/expensive collectors cars.

dannyjo22 · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:09

I used to love these as a kid, looking at those pictures now those does nothing for me, just a cruddy shaped sierra with grills in the bonnet and a stupid whale tail.

I still love the escort cossies though.

I do though appreciate the condition he's kept that car in.

Lopéz · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:13

ubersonic said:
In comparison to the Sierra or the Escort?

Thread is predominantly about the Sierra RS Cosworth. It came out in 1985, at which time Japan had nothing even close to be honest. In fact, nobody did.

ubersonic · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:22

Lopéz said:
Thread is predominantly about the Sierra RS Cosworth. It came out in 1985, at which time Japan had nothing even close to be honest. In fact, nobody did.

k, ill go with the Mitsubishi Starion (up to 197hp unleaded, 225hp leaded), the Nissan 300ZX MK1 (205hp), the Toyota Supra MK3 (230-276hp). I'd also like to point out the BMW M3 with 195-238hp. It should also be pointed out that due to the size of the Sierra it oculd be compared to the M5 which was even more powerful.

Both the Sierra/Escort cossies look like a chavs wet dreams, when the scooter loving saxo/astra owners spent stupid amounts on ripspeed gear in the 90's that is what they wanted their cars to look like.

naefeart said:
I'm guessing you didn't grow up watching them on the motorsport scene, or see them when they were brand new in the showrooms?

I did but im also pretty biased, my uncle worked for British Leyland so I had it drummed into me from an early age if you want a decent car buy BMW or Japanese, everything else is unreliable garbage.

G|mp · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:32

You could still drive that down the street today and people would turn and look.

Ultimate Bad Ass.

Marine Iguana · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:35

G|mp said:
You could still drive that down the street today and people would turn and look.

Ultimate Bad Ass.

I have a lovely white one that gets driven past my work every day you can hear it coming and I still look even though I know what it is

topshot · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:40

G|mp said:
You could still drive that down the street today and people would turn and look.

Ultimate Bad Ass.

Not unless their big ford fans. There are many better 90's cars (mainly jap) than the ford cosworth in terms of looks and performance.

mrk · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:41

It (Sierra Cos) does still look like an old Ford with a big ass spoiler and a loud can so "everyone" won't suddenly turn in awe on the street today.

G|mp · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:44

topshot said:
Not unless their big ford fans. There are many better 90's cars (mainly jap) than the ford cosworth in terms of looks and performance.

Oh shut up, I'm sure there is but it's how that car makes people feel, the sheer badassness of that car is hard to beat.

You drive around in your 90's Jap special, you will still never be as badass as if you had a Sierra Cossie.

Lopéz · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:44

ubersonic said:
k, ill go with the Mitsubishi Starion (up to 197hp unleaded, 225hp leaded), the Nissan 300ZX MK1 (205hp), the Toyota Supra MK3 (230-276hp). I'd also like to point out the BMW M3 with 195-238hp. It should also be pointed out that due to the size of the Sierra it oculd be compared to the M5 which was even more powerful.

Both the Sierra/Escort cossies look like a chavs wet dreams, when the scooter loving saxo/astra owners spent stupid amounts on ripspeed gear in the 90's that is what they wanted their cars to look like.

I did but im also pretty biased, my uncle worked for British Leyland so I had it drummed into me from an early age if you want a decent car buy BMW or Japanese, everything else is unreliable garbage.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/3059368988_f8e7d32a7d_o.jpg

Read the "Verdict" column

Or we can fast forward a few years:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3389291655_1a3a979c5e_o.jpg

Same verdict.

Will Gill · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:44

first time i ever heard a dump valve was on a cossie, I did a sex wee

Nick1881 · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:46

I'm going to join the haters.

It looked **** back then and it looks like old **** today

Dup · 16 Mar 2011 at 15:53

Reminds me of this:

Sex

ubersonic · 16 Mar 2011 at 16:00

Lopéz said:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/3059368988_f8e7d32a7d_o.jpg

Read the "Verdict" column

Or we can fast forward a few years:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3389291655_1a3a979c5e_o.jpg

Same verdict.

So a car mag says it was the best at that time, ill treat that with the same credibility I do top gear lap times, why is 150mph important when the NSL at the time was the same as it is now and track days were unheard of at that time? why does it rave about the £16,000 price tag yet not mention the insurance for a lot of people would surpass that figure?

I think ill stick idolizing the better looking, better performing, cheaper to run and more reliable Jap cars of the day...

Lopéz · 16 Mar 2011 at 16:20

ubersonic said:
I think ill stick idolizing the better looking, better performing, cheaper to run and more reliable Jap cars of the day...

As we have already established - there weren't any. None that were as good. If you are talking about things like the Pulsar, Impreza, R32/33 GTR and so on, they weren't "of the day".