Water Cooling Section.

JeffyB · 13 Apr 2011 at 12:15

Razor Time said:
If you could change the CPU block, add in a gpu block or change the coolant to a h50 type cooler then fair enough but as this cant be done then it should stay out of a custom water-cooling section.

No one has actually asked for a custom water section was simply for a watercooling section.

Razor Time · 13 Apr 2011 at 12:16

JeffyB said:
No one has actually asked for a custom water section was simply for a watercooling section.

Surely they are one and the same thing. The whole point of a water cooling section is to learn and read about what water cooling components works best etc... A h50 is a stand alone unit which negates all of this.

JeffyB · 13 Apr 2011 at 12:21

I still don't see any problem with it being for all types of water cooling even if they are sealed. I don't like the attitude that watercooling is some mysterious dark art that only some can achieve or have a forum for. I'd say open it up, it's not a big deal to avoid a h50 thread and will enable more people to feel watercooling is accessible.

Razor Time · 13 Apr 2011 at 12:36

JeffyB said:
I still don't see any problem with it being for all types of water cooling even if they are sealed. I don't like the attitude that watercooling is some mysterious dark art that only some can achieve or have a forum for. I'd say open it up, it's not a big deal to avoid a h50 thread and will enable more people to feel watercooling is accessible.

Watercooling is not really something for beginners to try out so there is a bit of an art to get it working correctly and assembling a full loop. I do understand what you are trying to say as some wc forums can be a bit elitist but at the same time allot of good info can be found on these very same forums. I think the main fear is that if you mix in h50 type coolers in a watercooling section it would dilute down the section and would be no different to how it is now ie air and water mixed together. By separating custom loops from air coolers it makes it easier to browse and keeps everything in order. Maybe a section just for H50 style coolers would be a better approach than to bundle them in with watercoolers. A watercooling section should really be for specing of parts, watercooling build logs, discussion of parts, working out how much heat needs to be dispersed etc... I cant see how a H50 topic will have any of these as all you can really do is change a fan.

JeffyB · 13 Apr 2011 at 13:08

I built my first loop last summer, it wasn't difficult at worst some bits were fidly. I guess the general consensus is to exclude the h50 type units and keep the water section custom only.

DavyBoy · 13 Apr 2011 at 13:08

This would make a lot of sense, but at the same time, OcUK have got a serious lack of watercooling gear for sale, infact they have little to nothing at all!!!

I remember some of the tech guys posting on here last year saying that they were going to be taking in lots of custom WC stuff and how they were going to be the best e-tailer for watercooling gear... whatever happened to that?!?!?

nick1988 · 13 Apr 2011 at 13:16

I would be very interested in a WC section for the forum a great way to get more people into water cooling. Would also love to see OCUK sell more water cooling parts especially bitspower fittings!

DavyBoy · 13 Apr 2011 at 13:18

Nick, they used to have a whole bunch of different Bitspower fittings, clearly serious watercooling enthusiasts stuck with purchasing their gear from dedicated watercooling specialist e-tailers, hence the reason the majority of OcUK's WC gear is either out of stock, or thrown into the Clearance Lines section (last time I looked in clearance lines there was quite a few Bitspower fittings in there).

1kiwi · 13 Apr 2011 at 13:53

There are not really that many questions to ask about the H50 in my opinion. Just install it like you would any heatsink and go.

RedvGreen · 13 Apr 2011 at 13:55

There are plenty of troubleshooting issues with the H50 and H70, but then again, the best place for those is the Corsair Official Forums. Custom WC has no official support area, hence why a forum area is justified and needed

nick1988 · 13 Apr 2011 at 14:37

DavyBoy said:
Nick, they used to have a whole bunch of different Bitspower fittings, clearly serious watercooling enthusiasts stuck with purchasing their gear from dedicated watercooling specialist e-tailers, hence the reason the majority of OcUK's WC gear is either out of stock, or thrown into the Clearance Lines section (last time I looked in clearance lines there was quite a few Bitspower fittings in there).

Cheers for the info Davy! Never thought to look in the clearance lines before, seem to have loads of fittings in stock. My bad :rolleyes:

nickrose · 13 Apr 2011 at 14:47

JeffyB said:
I often feel there's a smidge of elitism and snobbery when it comes to watercooling and the h50/70 hate is not useful. I dont see it being a big deal having h50 type products discussed in a watercooling forum as its often a stepping stone into the bigger world of water cooling for those not as confident to make the jump first time around.

With all due respect to all H50 and H70 owners, I am not trying to be Elitist or a snob or anything else.

Many true watercoolers spend many, many hours researching, designing, selecting components and then building a good watercooled setup.

I spent the best part od 2 months reserching mine and a good couple of weekends building it, not to mention the small fortune in buying it.

Many H50/70 owners see athread like 'My h50 knocked off 2 degrees of my temps' rush off and buy one. These coolers have their place in the market, and I owned a H50 once (only for 1 week), but cannot be classed as serious watercooling.

An 'off the shelf' soloution like the H50/70 may well reduce temps at most 5-10 degrees, but the only knowledge needed is the same as changing to an high-end air cooler and more often than not an high-end air cooler will beat a H50/70 on temps and noise reduction.

A watercoold section would be excellent, but keep the custom and off the shelf seperate.

Razor Time said:
If you could change the CPU block, add in a gpu block or change the coolant to a h50 type cooler then fair enough but as this cant be done then it should stay out of a custom water-cooling section.

Couldn't agree more.

MikeTimbers · 18 Apr 2011 at 13:15

Elitist water-cooling forums don't last long; I know, I used to be on a lot of them. There's little point trying to block users of OOTB water-cooling systems. These people are just starting out on their journey and you want them to be exposed to the benefits of custom cooling.

Let them in, be nice (any water-cooling is better than none), and try to bring them to the dark side.

Solemn · 18 Apr 2011 at 15:39

Any news on this happening? =)

Shayper · 18 Apr 2011 at 20:14

Yeah, I would like to know if this is actually going to happen

OLDPHART · 19 Apr 2011 at 08:34

Right to bring forum members upto date, just had a quick chat with NathWraith and they have not come to a decision yet.

OLDPHART.

The Asgard · 19 Apr 2011 at 08:41

I think a Water Cooling forum would be a great addition to OcUK. I'm sure it would push up sales

WingZero30 · 19 Apr 2011 at 08:46

I would also vote for water cooling section

It would be excellent to see all the different watercooling setups and a great learning envionment rather than looking at instructions manual. User experiences will also be much appreciated and any problems occured can be solved by experienced members resulting in greater water cooling knowledge for all the members :cool:

I for one would also like to learn about watercooling setups and procedures

Edit: plus IC Diamond also suggested that OCUK forum members have more watercooling setups than other forums members and he was/is interested in seeing results from water cooling users

IC Diamond said:
Well so far we have an interesting set of data that separates OCUK from all the 20 or so groups tested by us.

In the past water cooling is usually less than 5% of the sampled results, on OCUK at this point we are 30% water cooling(marked in red), 70% air! You guys are unique.

I would be interested in a sub test with the water group if I can get enough of a sample size using the contact and pressure paper same as what was used in the review. Any takers?

mike gunnz · 20 Apr 2011 at 21:49

OLDPHART said:
Right to bring forum members upto date, just had a quick chat with NathWraith and they have not come to a decision yet.

OLDPHART.

Christ I'd love to know what the debate consists of. I'd wager its related to the fact that they don't stock any water cooling parts. People would use the forum for discussion then go to competitors that hold both WC stock and, more importantly, other components that OCUK do sell. Potentially a dedicated WC section is a revenue loser as its a market OCUK can't compete in until they start holding stock.

RedvGreen · 20 Apr 2011 at 21:58

Any WC products would have issues attached to them, namely if a leak destroyed an entire system - who is to blame and who picks up the pieces?

Corsair H50/70 have the same predicament, but being a sealed system offer more security to the e-tailer. Saying that though, I wouldn't like to test how long it takes to get that refund for a system - and who is to say what the value of that system is if it breaks a year or so later when the system is out of production?