I'm going to die if I don't find a monitor soon!

Surveyor said:
I'm sure the OP will be in a much better mood after 4 hours sleep but I'm staying out of recommending anything.

I think we're in a lose, lose situation here.
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You're not. I'm edging closer to desicisions. I've already decided that for dual purpose, a TV is better than a Monitor which acts as both - with TVs, though having the higher wattage, carry the greatest flat panel type speakers, an are able to go quite loud before distortion sets in. At least this is the case with the 2 x LG 32" 300 something or other we have, which has those great menus in them.

I'm sure ATIs nice change to CCC (a few months back) will help out when using a HDTV as a monitor.

Thanks
 
UKFX said:
You're not. I'm edging closer to desicisions. I've already decided that for dual purpose, a TV is better than a Monitor which acts as both - with TVs, though having the higher wattage, carry the greatest flat panel type speakers, an are able to go quite loud before distortion sets in. At least this is the case with the 2 x LG 32" 300 something or other we have, which has those great menus in them.

I'm sure ATIs nice change to CCC (a few months back) will help out when using a HDTV as a monitor.

Thanks
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That's good but you need to go to bed.

You'll only get 2 hours sleep now.
 
I know. I've decided I'm not going to bother. I have a habbit of leaving it too late before I need sleep. :D
 
Still a tad concerned about panel lottery, an after reading a very in-depth (i know i know, i shouldn't have, right?), selecting PC mode via HDMI when connected to a PC causes the sharpness settings an edge enhancement to stay locked, an causes text look weird, blurry and glowing, making it harder to read. Of course you don't need to select that though.

Anyone actually using this via DVI > HDMI adapter, as a PC monitor?

Any alternatives, etc? I can't seem to find any video reviews on it.

Great for PS3 no doubt, just concerned about the PC performance.

Sadly if I do get it, I'll have to have a HDMI sticking out of the side of the TV, so I'll be seeing a cable levitating at the left of my eye. Not at all a smart placement for a HDMI because it limits you to where you can put your video sources/set ups.

:@
 
Some folks say the buttons are flimsy and the panel is of low build quality. Some say sound is tinny.
Some say poor blacks.
Some say terrible motion blur.
Some say bad viewing angles.
Some say clouding.

Other less experienced, less bothered, regular folk disagree.

I'm getting it.

Balls if it has 1 HDMI on the side and 1 at the back, I'll just have to ignore it. As for PC, I'll make sure I turn PC mode off, an if I have to do anything else extra, I'll run Windows 7's Clear Type config again, an then make some alterations in the ATI Catalyst Control Centre 2. One in deptch test did mention that through testing, after config, the colours were superb, an the scaling was great.

So long as the sound is better than the XL2370HD's 3watt speakers, and I don't get an MVA panel (lottery, right?), then I'll be happy.

Must make sure it's a "W" type, right? W = S-IPS. Wouldn't want any more unresponsiveness. So long as the input lag is low enough that it's not like this 2032MW.

LG 32LD450 it is then. I'll order that within a few days. :rolleyes: Least it'll finally stop the ****in about.

Thanks folks. I'll let you know how it is an whether or not it is a complete disaster for PC / PS3, or whether I get a MVA (10million second response time) panel.

:) Knowing my luck, things won't go to well...
 
Hope you get lucky and you never have any really serious issues uk your life ;) Try reading back your posts, more sleep and a couple of chill pills is what I prescribe :)
 
I don't need life advice, an I'm quite capable of looking after myself and my 18 yeards of Type 1 Diabetes. What you must understand of course, is after almost wasting £215 quid, twice, I am very wary of what I buy, since it has to last a long time, whilst providing good performance.

I have spent much of this morning going through various posts and youtube videos and reviews regarding the LG 32LD450 multiple times, an I have seen mixed reviews. I don't care. I feel that if I do get another monitor, the speakers are going to be worse than this 32 inch TV, which has 10Watt speakers. This means at least, that the speakers are capable of going louder before distortion sets in. With the XL2370HD, if the volume exceeded 20, bassy cards on Grand Turismo 5 had the worst rumbling (bezel rattling) distortion, I have come across in my life.

I am grateful that I was told to get a TV... as I've mentioned before, I have looked into this, but tried to go for a smaller screen solution as I felt 32" were too big. I'll go with 32" now an just get what I get. That screen, though the blacks aren't great, an the overall quality isn't as good, will suffice. I'm tired of messin about looking for monitors, it's very annoying. My PS3 games look hideous, an so long as Black Ops (and other games) look and play without input lag, then I will be happy.

I hope I am fortunate enough to get the S-IPS panel, since it seems the best all-rounder. How'd I go about sending it back if it isn't an S-IPS? I doubt they'd let me send it back if I say, "You've shipped me a MVA panel, this is slow as ****". lol

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, rude, or genuinely giving me friendly advice, but if I was rude, I didn't mean to come across that way.

I apologise.

Thanks to everyone who pitched in on the effort. I will be purchasing the LG 32LD450 (the 2nd one in the series - up from the 350), an I'll let you know. I just must remember to calibrate it, an make sure the PC isn't connected via the HDMI - PC input. Of course I will try it first and calibrate it, but if it sucks I'll have to mess about with it and try it in the HDMI, or simply calibrate my preferences in CCC.

Peace
 
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Yes you are correct about friendly advice. Remember we don't know you and the text on the screen influences our opinion of you which in turn determines the advice you get. Tbh you come across as young albeit articulate and a tad melodramatic, that's not a criticism just the way it seems. You do have a valid point re. more than one use. I have found myself that there are compromises to be made even at £500. My personal strategy is rank my requirements and look for the ones at the top of the list. Good luck with your new screen :)
 
I ran a 32" tv as a main screen for about 9 months at 1080p, samsung 5 series and although yu get used to it, i can assure you its no where near monitor league when it comes to sharpness and i honestly dont know if it would be for you, it took me about a week to get used to it. Gone back to a monitor now 30" dell and the difference is massive. Appreciate your budget though so give one a try but its a bit of a half way house.
 
UKFX said:
I hope I am fortunate enough to get the S-IPS panel, since it seems the best all-rounder. How'd I go about sending it back if it isn't an S-IPS? I doubt they'd let me send it back if I say, "You've shipped me a MVA panel, this is slow as ****". lol
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You can send it back under the Distance Selling Regulations for any reason whatsoever (eg you've just changed your mind), provided you notify the supplier within seven working days (some online retailers which I can't mention won't even charge you return postage). Have a search around the forum, the subject has been pretty well addressed here.

It might be worth pointing out that although the LG is reported by some as having bad blacks, this is relative to other TVs - its black levels are still better than most PC monitors, certainly in the price range you've been looking at. The various clouding/bleeding issues are mostly down to poor quality control and are an unfortunate fact of life with current LCD technology, whatever the make/model, you just have to be patient and if necessary keep returning them until you get one that's acceptable to you.

If the LG turns out to be no good, you could also look into the Toshiba 32RV753 or the Samsung LE32C530, which will both accept a 4:4:4 chroma signal in PC mode without downsampling it (in fact the Toshiba will also do so in game mode). They use relatively slow S-PVA or A-MVA panels though (again a panel lottery), which might not be what you want, although again I'd recommend trying them yourself rather than writing them off on principle.
 
I know, my budget is low. It sucks :(, but I wish to pay about £100 for some archery stuff, as I wish to take it up as a new hobby. Something to start up in. Only leaves me with £250 unfortunately.

If the blurriness is that bad as a PC monitor, then perhaps this screen isn't for me? Or maybe keep this panel and the TV? Although it'd be someone wasteful that way. Bah, I'm not sure yet. Easter and Bank Holiday is coming so I've yet a few more days before I can make a decision.

It seems that regardless of how careful I am with my choices, whether it be a quick find or something well looked into, I can always end up with something real naff-o. I don't expect the best afterall.

How bad is the blurriness on the the 32" LG?

Thanks (I'm literally fallin asleep, so I might not return for a while lolz)
 
I'm sorry if I'm stating the obvious here but you say that Samsung XL2370HD fit your criteria nicely but turns it self on randomly during the night.....well why does it need to be in standby all night? whats wrong with turning it off at the wall? Not only will it stop it turning on (maybe until they release a firmware update to sort the issue) and you'll be saving a few pennies in your leccy bill :)

Just seems like you're going over the top a smidge with something that could quite easily be fixed with a flick of a switch (literally)
 
I used a TV as a PC monitor for a while as well, and I found it great. Granted, I was sitting at TV viewing distances, and not PC monitor viewing distances, but it was good for what I needed.
 
Just a heads-up, the LG 32LD450 is currently available for £219 at somewhere I can't mention by name (big river full of piranhas).... they'll soon be giving them away in cereal packets at this rate.

Prices for electrical goods at this place tend to swing wildly at short notice, so probably a good idea not to hesitate if you're interested. :)
 
cokecan72 said:
I'm sorry if I'm stating the obvious here but you say that Samsung XL2370HD fit your criteria nicely but turns it self on randomly during the night.....well why does it need to be in standby all night? whats wrong with turning it off at the wall? Not only will it stop it turning on (maybe until they release a firmware update to sort the issue) and you'll be saving a few pennies in your leccy bill :)

Just seems like you're going over the top a smidge with something that could quite easily be fixed with a flick of a switch (literally)
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Because that's hassle, not to mention the super bad squeaky stand and the buttons not working. It's not that it turns itself on when the PC is on stand by, an I don't actually leave the screen on standby either. I actually pretty the off button on the TV / remote. It'll be quiet for however many minutes, or hours, an then make the melodic tone, say "DVI..." - then - "...NO SIGNAL", then switch off. It may do this multiple times. At first I thought, crap, I didn't plug it in properly (with the first one), so I made sure it was in. It wasn't actually plugged in properly, however, even after it was, it did the same thing, an then when it was sent off, the other one did the exact same thing.

It's like Samsung's entire range of XL2370s are developed widely with faults. Unless the buyer I got them from bought an huge stock load of broken ones.

TV is off the table then? lol square one, w00t w00t.

At this rate I'll leave it another month or so, I'm not going to rush into it. I'll get some archery stuff before the TV, but if anyone has any other suggestions that'd be great.

Thanks

Peace
 
Why are you making this over-complicated?

U2311H, DVI-HDMI adaptor lead (I can attest that the PS3 looks great on a U2311H through a DVI-HDMI lead, I use this combo), and a cheap KVM switch (that has only audio and USB ports) to plug both the PS3 and PC into the speakers. The panel is fantastic, it has USB ports on the side (so you could use the KVM switch for monitor USB control as well), an adjustable stand, good colours, no noticeable lag (or no more so than anything else) and a great warranty.

What GPU do you have on your PC? That's the only potential stumbling block (even then, there are DVI-DP adaptors, or DVI-VGA).
 
I have a friend just like you UKFX, he is hard work as well, so far it has took him 5 years to decide if he should buy a DiscDoctor to fix some of his CD's, and he still has not bought one.
He likes to make a lot of excuse's to warrant not actually buying it.

If you really cannot afford it you should wait until you feel you can no longer be without it, or go to a shop and view some t.v's, don't go buying dodgy stock from ebay and many problems you are getting might go away.

The switching on and off in the middle of the night might have been caused by something plugged in, I know my sky box does some stuff when off as can hear it spin up, and the actual melodic sound of it is user controllable usually, surely you could have turned that melodic sound off, squeaky stand? the surface you had it on must not have been stable enough, suggest wall mounting your next one.
 
i recently purchased a Dell ST2420L Widescreen LED HD Monitor 24" off the bay and then a sound bar off dell and i'd like to think it fits what you need. The screen cost me £175 and the soundbar £26 & it looks very smart.
 
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