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Were we right to get involved in Libya?

  • Yes

    Votes: 306 50.9%

  • No

    Votes: 295 49.1%
  • Total voters
    601
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.. sounds weak.. im all for cruise missile on gaddafi if they do it to the rest but aslong as they are only bothered about libya im dead against it because it doesnt seem like anything to do with civilians just an excuse to get some cheap oil deals going with the rebels.

after all gaddafi was the first country in the world to force oil companies to give the nation the oil belonged to a bigger slice of the oil money, after everyone else decided they wanted the same deal it almost sounds like thats the real reason they hate gaddafi its like they want to settle an old score
 
i dont see how they can really issue an arrest warant for gaddafi based on his army shooting protestors when the exact same thing is happening in syria on a larger scale by the looks of it without anyone really caring.

same crap could be said for Alassane Ouattara for the ivory coast massacres commiting by his suporters , same could be said for yemen and many other states.

why do they only seem to be targeting libya?

add israel to the list aswell
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It looks like the ICC is going to charge Gaddafi for war crimes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13277738
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I watched the report on Channel 4 news where civilians were being bombarded at the port as they awaited ships to arrive so they could flee! :mad: Loyalist forces intentionally targetted what were clearly civilian/aid/hospital ships. No miltary targets were IVO.

http://www.channel4.com/news/uk-demands-unfettered-humanitarian-access-to-misrata

http://azstarnet.com/news/world/article_f20a7dd7-ef5c-584b-aa50-9a9b53927567.html

arknor said:
i dont see how they can really issue an arrest warant for gaddafi based on his army shooting protestors when the exact same thing is happening in syria on a larger scale by the looks of it without anyone really caring.

same crap could be said for Alassane Ouattara for the ivory coast massacres commiting by his suporters , same could be said for yemen and many other states.

why do they only seem to be targeting libya?

add israel to the list aswell
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You can't guage the scale of the violence in either country, you're just making an assumption. I haven't seen many shellings of civilians in Syria though?

Furthermore; comparisons of warcrimes by Gaddaffi vs Blair/Bush is just retarded and pathetic. Blair/Bush didn't positively target innocents, non-military and aid/relief ships!! :rolleyes:
 
the reason gaddafi gives for shelling the port area if that these boats arent jjust taking migrants they are bringing rebels from benghazi aswell as arms and supplies for the rebels in miserata and they probably are seeing as the rebels in miserata managed to gain ground but only after these ships started coming.

the libyan goverment has said any aid must come by ground.
not that i can condone the shelling of the port area its totally out of order.

have you actually watched any of the syria videos? they arent just shelling they are shooting often at point blank range into a crowd of protestors aswell as rounding up and aresting people on a very large scale..
one of the few videos that should be acceptable on this forum skynews etc , youtube are filled with videos of more graphic crackdowns on protestors.

its all going to kick off soon when this military coloum of more than 60 vehicles reaches homs

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo...Damascus_Suburb_And_Arrest_Hundreds_Of_People
 
syria is probably worse the goverments military can freely go around killing civilians, as the sky news reporter says about the military convoy of over 60 vehicles on its way to homs... if it was in libya it would have been bombed by nato because of the risk to civilians :rolleyes:
the leader of syria is a terrorist suporter acording to what america has said inthe past to...
 
Athanor said:
I've asked this before elsewhere but just so we all know where we stand. Before you look down disapprovingly at the rest of us for not doing anything in Syria, what, exactly are you doing to help the situation as you feel so strongly about it?
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bringing it to peoples attention rather than ignoring it like our goverment? you would rather i pretend its not happening aswell... maybe that will make the problem go away ...:rolleyes:
 
arknor said:
bringing it to peoples attention rather than ignoring it like our goverment? you would rather i pretend its not happening aswell... maybe that will make the problem go away ...:rolleyes:
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The government isn't ignoring it, but what exactly do you want them to do?
There is no military option.
 
arknor said:
bringing it to peoples attention rather than ignoring it like our goverment? you would rather i pretend its not happening aswell... maybe that will make the problem go away ...:rolleyes:
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I see, so you don't feel strongly enough to do anything yourself other than post on a computer forum. You are however castigating our government for not sending other peoples sons and daughters in our armed forces into a situation where some of them will certainly be killed.

I think under the circumstances I'm going to pass one of the roll eyes you've been using so often rightbackatcha... :rolleyes:
 
oh get a grip you do this in every stupid thread about wars....

what exactly are you doing about it? helpoing the goverment crack down on people who speak against them? maybe you shpould go look for a job in gaddafis regine or syria you would be quite happy clamping down on the protestors...

what do you exprect me to do? go force nato to bring an end to a civil war rather than choose a side? how exactly do i do this?
 
I don't expect to do anything about it - you're the one trying to take the moral high ground, feigning outrage moaning about other peoples inaction when you're not prepared to do something about it yourself.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, I've not said you're not. I do think it sets your moral outrage in perspective when you are not prepared to do anything yourself beyond hand wringing posts on a computer forum complaining "somebody should do something". All very easy to demand other people get sent to die in a war they can't win from the comfort of your PC so you can feel better about fairness.

International politics just isn't as straight forward as that.

Just saying...
 
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