Is the bible still relevant today?

[lixxus]

I think the universe is God.

It has the same Attributes such as being infinite.

Religion is man made.

The idea of being judged and sent to "Hell" because of being bad and sinful is absolute ludicrous like santa clause.

72 virgins if you die as a martyr. (Islam)

Genesis- god made heaven and earth in seven days and rested. so now apparently god rests and has human attributes.

If God infinite and all powerful why does it take him 7 days to create earth and have to rest. Cant he just say be and it happens.

Also Adam and Eve concept. you mean to tell me because they eat from a tree of fruit we a forsaken on earth and until we are judged for someone else mistaken.

Another thing. Sheytan, satan whatever the monotheists religions call him. Apparently argued with the creator because of not prostrating to Adam.

I mean how does this stuff sound guys.

If we are going to believe God is all powerful,supernatural and doesn't follow rules bound by human knowledge. Then we have to ask ourselves simple logical questions.

If I was God and Satan argued with me I would destroy his evil ass, so now apparently god likes to argue and make bets. Yet it is sinful to bet.

Wake up people

 

[Pav89]

Arguably one of the most stupid laws ever based off Christianity.

I think its brilliant. Its a good time to try and spend some time with the family if possible. Forget about materialism and think about the people in your life that matter and spend time with them?

Food shopping can be done for 6 and a half days. Can't see what the complaint is

 

[bhavv]

It does not say the universe was created in 7 days and it does not say the world is 6000 years old. Yet again you fail. It also does not say or suggest it is flat.

It says that the world was created in 6, excuse me if I dont recall pathetically incorrect nonsense from the Bible to 100% accuracy.

And it says that the Earth and the moon are roungly 6000-10000 years old, with 6000 years being the more accurate figure based on what I learnt in science class at my Christian faith school, and evolution is a lie so STFU cos I am right

The Bible DOES suggest that the Earth is flat. I obviously know more about it than you do.

Food shopping can be done for 6 and a half days. Can't see what the complaint is

When I used to work on weekends I wanted to work more hours on a sunday, but I wasnt allowed too.

Our supermarket was also jam packed between friday - sunday, being open for a few extra hours on a sunday would have helped both the store and the customers a lot more.

 

[RDM]

I find it interesting that bhavv's vision of Christianity is more like Christian Fundamentalism than the Christianity practiced by the vast majority of Christians in this country. I also find it somewhat telling that he is just as fanatical and blinkered as they. Kedge and he could be different sides of the same coin for example.

 

[Surfer]

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that 'discussion' with Bhavv is a waste of my day. Anyone who can gladly and loudly admit... no... proclaim that they are ignorant of a topic, can't be bothered reading or learning about it, but that they want to spend hours and hours trolling others about it just isn't worth the time. This is the very definition of trolling, and screams ignorance.

To lose point after point in a discussion and having to fall back to admitting you know nothing about which you speak, and THEN proceed to say it's all rubbish anyway is incredibly juvenile and weak-minded. I see no point in continuing. If someone genuinely wishes to discuss anything of this nature I'm always up for that, as I find it interesting. To waste my life talking in circles with a self-confessed ignoramus gets both of us precisely nowhere.

Yep agreed, the point of discussion is learning and sharing (well for me). Its not about reinforcing prejudice and closemindedness. I find it amazingly disrespectful the way Bhavv talks of religion and for me its clear he does it to wind people up/troll. (i'm sure Bhavv has done this in a previous religion thread) I am immensly fascinated when someone e.g .Castiel, yourself etc brings another viewpoint to the table on a subject of interest to me (e.g. consciousness) that is contrary to the status quo.

 

[BunnyKillBot]

The Bible states that the Universe was made in 7 days, light and plants were made before the sun

Given that 'light' is a discrete packet of energy given off by an emitter, in a chicken or the egg argument, light definitely comes first. Also, how do you know our Sun was the first star that formed? Why do you believe our Sun was the first matter in the universe that was hot enough to give off light?

 

[Glaucus]

It says that the world was created in 6, excuse me if I dont recall pathetically incorrect nonsense from the Bible to 100% accuracy.

And it says that the Earth and the moon are roungly 6000-10000 years old, with 6000 years being the more accurate figure based on what I learnt in science class at my Christian faith school, so STFU cos I am right



When I used to work on weekends I wanted to work more hours on a sunday, but I wasnt allowed too.

Our supermarket was also jam packed between friday - sunday, being open for a few extra hours on a sunday would have helped both the store and the customers a lot more.

No it doesn't. Go learn what the bible says.

It says the universe was around before the earths creation, it gives no time scale at all.
The 7 days again does not say or mean 7 days. It actually says if translated correctly it was created in 7 time periods. Again no idea of time given.

No where does it say anything about the age of the world at all.

 

[lixxus]

No it doesn't. Go learn what the bible says.

It says the universe was around before the earths creation, it gives no time scale at all.
The 7 days again does not say or mean 7 days. It actually says if translated correctly it was created in 7 time periods. Again no idea of time given.

No where does it say anything about the age of the world at all.

Poor Biblical God, has to work to deadlines.

Why does there have to be any periods ?

 

[bhavv]

No it doesn't. Go learn what the bible says.

It says the universe was around before the earths creation, i
The 7 days again does not say or mean 7 days. It actually says if translated correctly it was created in 7 time periods. Again no idea of time given. t gives no time scale at all.

No where does it say anything about the age of the world at all.

How about you actually watch the Creationism video that I posted in the last thread to understand what I was reffering too?

Oh, and about the flat earth, here you go:

By the way, I said that the bible says the universe was created in 7 days out of error after watching the documentary on the Universe. I spotted this error right away and was going to change the word universe to earth, and the number 7 to 6, but instead I decided to leave it as it was to see who would first notice the error.

Congratulations, it was AcidHell2!

 

[Glaucus]

And how about you look at different meaning of the word. Perhaps instead it is four corners of the known world/kingdom. Or are you silly enough to believe the bible is translated into English perfectly. It's not.

Oh yes that's right you know nothing about the bible and think what a few of the vocal extreme groups, is all there is to it.

So how long did the universe take to form or exist?

*1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.[a] 2 The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

 

[semi-pro waster]

Poor Biblical God, has to work to deadlines.

Why does there have to be any periods ?

Because God chose there to be time periods? If we're assuming a supernatural being with infinite power then the only reason for there to be periods (of any length) is because they chose it to be so.

How about you actually watch the Creationism video that I posted in the last thread to understand what I was reffering too?

Oh, and about the flat earth, here you go:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8113/flatearth.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

Why is it solely literally that you appear to interpret the Bible? Can it not be allegorical at all?

 

[Glaucus]

Poor Biblical God, has to work to deadlines.

Why does there have to be any periods ?

Periods are easy to explain, just like we have in science.

Big bang
Instant after big bang
Early universe of massive fast burning and destructive stars
Stable universe
Micro organisms
Small life forms
Intelligent life forms
Darkening of the universe when all hydrogen is exhausted.

 

[Castiel]

Even if I did, I probably wouldnt be able to remember any of it. I cant even remember 5% of what I read from books. I wouldnt be able to read anymore than a single page of any book these days without feeling an overwhelming need to fall asleep.

this might help...

http://www.ehow.com/how_4690480_stop-falling-asleep-reading.html

to be honest though it is a shame that your sleep disorder regarding reading books doesn't extend to reading OCuk threads.......

 

[bhavv]

And how about you look at different meaning of the word. Perhaps instead it four corners of the known world/kingdom.

Oh yes that's right you know nothing about the bible and think what a few of the vocal extreme groups, is all there is to it.

Depends on where you studied the Bible. I went to this school, and learnt as a fact that the Bible says that naughty people are turned into pillars of salt, the Earth is 6000 years old and was created in 6 days, and that evolution is a lie:

Stuff like this:

 

[lixxus]

you always get that with religious people. Always tell you that the meaning means something else or is metaphorical.

So apparently you know what God is thinking when he wrote these apparent holy books. Why would God confuse the **** out of people. Also words and meaning translate over time and mean different things.

I would think the word of God would be simple and should be taken for face value.

God should have left footnotes.

Furthermore anyone that believes these holy books have any factual science in it are special needs.

 

[Glaucus]

Depends on where you studied the Bible. I went to this school, and learnt as a fact that the Bible says that naughty people are turned into pillars of salt, the Earth is 6000 years old and was created in 6 days, and that evolution is a lie:

It doesn't matter where you stand, the bible simply does not say that, what some groups believe doesn't come into it. It is simply not in the bible. You can post that video as much as you want, it won't suddenly change what is written in the bible.

 

[Glaucus]

you always get that with religious people. Always tell you that the meaning means something else or is metaphorical.

So apparently you know what God is thinking when he wrote these apparent holy books. Why would God confuse the **** out of people. Also words and meaning translate over time and mean different things.

I would think the word of God would be simple and should be taken for face value.

God should have left footnotes.

Furthermore anyone that believes these holy books have any factual science in it are special needs.

You'll be sorry to here I'm not in the least but religious, so there goes that argument.

 

[Castiel]

So apparently you know what God is thinking when he wrote these apparent holy books.

Hmmm, God didn't write the Bible, people did.

 

[lixxus]

Periods are easy to explain, just like we have in science.

Big bang
Instant after big bang
Early universe of massive fast burning and destructive stars
Stable universe
Micro organisms
Small life forms
Intelligent life forms
Darkening of the universe when all hydrogen is exhausted.

Are you serious.

You are using the belief of Big bang theory to explain Christianity.

LMAO

 

[Glaucus]

Are you serious.

You are using the belief of Big bang theory to explain Christianity.

LMAO

Where did I say that? I did say that at all, someone said. Why are time periods used. Awnser is it is easy to explain without going into exact detail and is exactly the same when explaining science.

How about your read what is written and not what you think is written and while. You at it stop thinking I'm religious.