General consensus on Mass Effect games (spoilers within)

[Lunatic Dreyfus]

If Garrus, Tali and most importantly, Liara don't have starring roles in No. 3, I'm out. Then again I'm not pre-ordering after the recent EA statement.

Back on topic. I consider the ME games to be some of the best produced games I've ever played with excellent atmosphere and wonderful characters. Unfortunately the main story is over very quickly in both games, if you cut through the chaff and focus on the plot. Once you scrape below the surface they become quite shallow and lack the depth/complexity that I crave. This is sadly a legacy of its console roots, though of course without the XBox Mass Effect would never have been made in the first place. I can't help feeling though that a version made ground up for the PC would have all the NPC's fighting alongside you, which would have been epic.

Before I get flamed by the console crowd, I completed both games on the 360 first and great fun they were too. However the Mako was far easier to control on the PC, and the mini games were better too.

 

[Evilsod]

If you fail to complete Arrival within the time (1 1/2 hours IIRC) a cutscene will be triggered which shows flashes of the Reapers' destruction of the galaxy.

Pff, arbitrary timer and an actual ending where you fail as a result of bad decisions aren't the same thing.

Yeah that's what i am fearing. Like the first game, they seem like big decisions when you are making them but playing the second game, they make very little difference tbh

Indeed. Though i can understand why some of them like Rachni had little effect because they have to rebuild. But the Thorian was pretty much irrelevant.

ME1 is better in my opinion, although the inventory system is very, very frustrating. You pick up an insane amount of stuff and have to sift through it every time you want to pick an item/change ammo etc etc.

There's unlimited ammunition as well, none of this reloaded weirdness they have in ME2

I dunno why they changed back to a generic clip system over the overheating system.

 

[opethdisciple]

Overall, I dont see what all the fuss is about with the Mass Effect series.

They where ok... but a bit bland, and the combat in my opinion was week.

Also the graphics where poor.

 

[Indy500]

Overall, I dont see what all the fuss is about with the Mass Effect series.

They where ok... but a bit bland, and the combat in my opinion was week.

There's definitely room for improvement, but I think the setting has potential. The environments are obviously limited by the series' console roots, as is the GoW-style combat.

Also the graphics where poor.

Compared to what?

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Overall, I dont see what all the fuss is about with the Mass Effect series.

They where ok... but a bit bland, and the combat in my opinion was week.

Also the graphics where poor.

Graphics were poor? They were pretty good by any standard on the PC.

They also have one of the best stories of any game on the PC.

 

[james.miller]

me graphics were distinctly average for a pc game, which is pretty much par for course looking at its console beginnings. Not that that bothered me at all - i bought the games the 360 before picking them up from steam for peanuts. by that point i'd probably put 60 hours combined in to the 360 versions at that point:

 

[longers]

Comically you don't appear to like conversations, or story

If i want conversations and story i'll watch a good film... not some poorly lip synced awkward interactive cut scenes. I don't play games to have dull conversations with ai. If i want to talk to someone i'll do it in real life

What's left? FPS!

Racing games, puzzle games, strategy games, sports games...

So this makes me ask a question, why play an RPG? Even one as watered down & actiony as ME2 is?

I don't play RPGS, i played mass effect because it was meant to have action... but the action was complete and utter gash.

Your post came across as one of a kiddie, so that's how I treated you
I'm yet to be proved wrong.

The only person who is coming across as a kid is you. To suggest only kids play Call of Duty is the kind of thing that monumental geeks who spend too much time on gaming forums come out with.

I am 27 and i know countless people my age and older who play it, people with social lives outside of the internet who don't know or care about the cringy internet bandwagon of hate directed towards call of duty and the people who play it... you know, NORMAL people.

 

[Evilsod]

Longers, go away and stop trolling.

 

[james.miller]

it's obvious mass effect wasnt for you, but playing an rpg (when you dont like rpgs) solely because its got some guns is pretty funny, it has to be said. what else did you really expect? its rpg with action elements, not the other way round.

 

[longers]

i didn't play it solely for the action, i played it because everyone kept going on about how good it was... so i was intrigued.

Longers, go away and stop trolling.

trolling lol

you are clearly another guy who spends way too much time on the internet

in my first post i gave reasons for not liking it, people who do like it got upset as if i was offending their mother and said i should go back to cod

and yet im trolling...

god i hate the internet sometimes

 

[Evilsod]

Your reasons were pretty much, "I don't like RPGs". I don't like Racing Games, that doesn't mean I should go into the F1 2010 thread and tell everyone its crap.

So yes, stop trolling. If it would make you shut up, go back to CoD and stop wasting everyones time.

 

[longers]

Jesus aren't you just the perfect definition of everything that is wrong with the internet.

The OP asks what people thought of the mass effect games so i gave my opinion...

Care to point me to where it says "NO NEGATIVE OPINIONS ALLOWED" ?

I didn't just come in and say "its rubbish", i gave reasons why i thought it was rubbish... whats the problem ?

I think you need to scrape some of that sand out of your massive mangina

 

[Evilsod]

Jesus aren't you just the perfect definition of everything that is wrong with internet gaming forums.

The OP asks what did people think of the mass effect games so i gave my opinion...

Care to point me to where it says "NO NEGATIVE OPINIONS ALLOWED" ?

I didn't just come in and just say "its rubbish", i gave reasons why i thought it was rubbish... whats the problem ?

Are you just that much of a sad socially inept nerd that you can't handle differing opinions to your own ?

Oh its a classic.

Nobody has said negative opinions are banned. Infact there have been quite a few constructive negative comments in this thread. Incase you struggle with that sentence I put the important word in italics for you, because your comments were far from it.

Let me show one to you incase you forgot:

It's all horrifically dull tbh, just like all RPGs

So from that (and the mini rant about how you don't play games for story, which is odd given that thats what defines an RPG...) I can safely assume you don't like RPGs yet felt the need to say the game was crap based on nothing other than that you don't like the genre.

But sure, you continue your personal insults, because your social life is clearly marvellous.

 

[longers]

are you blind as well as incredibly thick ? got to love your selective quoting...

My idea of fun is not sitting through countless dull and pointless conversations which ultimately have zero effect on how the main story unfolds.

The person who skips through every single conversation will experience more or less the same main story as someone who sits through every single conversation, they have no effect on how the games main story unfolds and ends.

Don't even get me started on the half arsed side missions, lame combat and unbelievably poor AI

From the above you can tell that one criticism is that the conversations don't have enough impact on how the story unfolds.

You can also see that i think the side missions have not had enough effort or detail put into them, on top of that i criticse the combat and poor AI.

What more do you want ? an essay ?

Leave your house you weird little man, you have 5000+ posts on an internet forum and your photo on steam make you look like you haven't seen daylight in years.

 

[Dem2k]

I was very dissapointed in ME2, purely by the fact you couldn't get Wrex to join your team. He was the most intresting and a personal favorite of mine in the orginal though its nice he did get some screen time I would have much rather he joined up and Shepard ditched that other krogan.

Hopefully he returns in ME3 and is in your team!

 

[Evilsod]

are you blind as well as incredibly thick ? got to love your selective quoting...

From the above you can tell that one criticism is that the conversations don't have enough impact on how the story unfolds.

You can also see that i think the side missions have not had enough effort or detail put into them, on top of that i criticse the combat and poor AI.

How would you know? You've not listened to them.

And no they make differences but very little that directly effects you, but then I think most of the hardcore RPG fans around here would say the same, only they would base it on what RPGs used to be like which your attitude would say you've never seen or heard of.
And really when you label all RPGs as crap I think its to be expected people assume you're talking rubbish.

Oh and for the record, you didn't comment on the combat or side missions. You pretty much cast them off as 'lame', probably for the same reason as above. You don't like RPGs.

Leave your house you weird man, you have 5000+ posts on an internet forum and your photo on steam make you look like you haven't seen daylight in years.

Nah I think thats the white foundation. Though I'm wondering if you know which 1 was actually me...

Would be nice but i can't see Wrex being recruitable
After all his part in ME2 was very small, and by default Wrex was killed.

 

[Pighardia]

I was very dissapointed in ME2, purely by the fact you couldn't get Wrex to join your team. He was the most intresting and a personal favorite of mine in the orginal though its nice he did get some screen time I would have much rather he joined up and Shepard ditched that other krogan.

Hopefully he returns in ME3 and is in your team!

That's one of the things i am concerned about with regards to the overall direction of the franchise. Wrex could die in ME1, if he survives then he hardly says a word in the rest of the game and briefly appears in ME2. The hopes for him appearing in a major role in ME3 are slim imo.
Same with Kaiden/Ashley as well, they only breifly appear in ME2.

 

[Shamikebab]

longers I suggest you go read the rules of the forum unless you want to take a holiday.

 

[Pighardia]

Overall, I dont see what all the fuss is about with the Mass Effect series.

They where ok... but a bit bland, and the combat in my opinion was week.

Also the graphics where poor.

Mass Effect 2 is the only game i have played where i actually preferred the graphics on the X-box. After playing it again, i couldn't believe how poor the textures were. Running around outside of cutscenes, the graphics were great and much better than X-box, but in cutscenes the faces looked great but the NPC armour and most of the background objects looked very poor.

 

[Evilsod]

That's one of the things i am concerned about with regards to the overall direction of the franchise. Wrex could die in ME1, if he survives then he hardly says a word in the rest of the game and briefly appears in ME2. The hopes for him appearing in a major role in ME3 are slim imo.
Same with Kaiden/Ashley as well, they only breifly appear in ME2.

I don't remember him not saying much after that moment, bit lame if he didn't.

They're supposed to be a recruitable squad member again in ME3 aren't they? Whoever survived that is.

You'd hope they actually make an effort on them. The return of your first party members from ME1 should be worth actually creating the same amount of dialogue for them as they would any other character.