a very quick x6

how else do you perceive a 2.3t x6 with a 3.0 diesel producing the figures an x40d does, as anything other than amazing?

What are you on about?

He asked why his car was being discussed, it's because he was basing his opinion off it.

I have zero opinion on what one model of a BMW 4x4 produces performance wise compared to another with a different spec. I have no intention of forming such an opinion either - not when the given 'facts' are unverifiable and totally assumed AT BEST.

I could not care less about the numbers on said vehicle. I responded to him whining about his car being in the spotlight when it's quite frankly obvious.
 
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should be interesting to see. ive got a squiffy video that looks about 8s, i could do a vagcom run tonight, but fox would be nothing without his sarcasm so you know a quip about "anyone can type numbers into excel" would follow, making the whole discussion about the golf pointless

going back on topic, though, the x6 is amazing

I'd be incredibly surprised if a 1.8T with just a map (afaik that's all you've done, no turbo back exhaust and turbo upgrade or anything) could manage that.

Your limit, assuming a good map is going to be 200-210 depending on engine, I really don't think that will be enough for an 8s 60-100mph.

I'd be interested to see though, as i'd be getting myself a remap quicker if it did make it that quick!
 
What are you on about?

He asked why his car was being discussed, it's because he was basing his opinion off it.

I have zero opinion on what one model of a BMW 4x4 produces performance wise compared to another with a different spec. I have no intention of forming such an opinion either - not when the given 'facts' are unverifiable and totally assumed AT BEST.

Whos car was being discussed? Mine? If so, why are you refering to me as "he" rather than "you?" :confused: theres no point throwing bad english into the discussion to confuse you further about cars

> not when the given 'facts' are unverifiable and totally assumed AT BEST

so in all the paranoia you dont even trust the stats BMW quote on their site now?
 
Whos car was being discussed? Mine? If so, why are you refering to me as "he" rather than "you?" :confused: theres no point throwing bad english into the discussion to confuse you further about cars

> not when the given 'facts' are unverifiable and totally assumed AT BEST

so in all the paranoia you dont even trust the stats BMW quote on their site now?

Chill out mate, jeez, its a bank holiday...
:)
 
I'd be incredibly surprised if a 1.8T with just a map (afaik that's all you've done, no turbo back exhaust and turbo upgrade or anything) could manage that.

Your limit, assuming a good map is going to be 200-210 depending on engine, I really don't think that will be enough for an 8s 60-100mph.

I'd be interested to see though, as i'd be getting myself a remap quicker if it did make it that quick!

the changes to my car are just the software and a couple of very basic breathing changes, "thinking out side the box" changes that i cant say ive even seen much discussion about on forums etc

> Your limit, assuming a good map is going to be 200-210 depending on engine, I really don't think that will be enough for an 8s 60-100mph.

dont want to sound rude but can you verify that at all or are you just regurgitating fox's sarcasm?

itll be interesting to see what vagcom says though
 
Chill out mate, jeez, its a bank holiday...
:)

im just poking a bit of fun at the fox band wagon member in this thread. its brilliant how a thread stating a 2.3t bus is amazing because it is fast can get so derailed by fox's personal issues with golfs.
 
Whos car was being discussed? Mine? If so, why are you refering to me as "he" rather than "you?" :confused: theres no point throwing bad english into the discussion to confuse you further about cars

> not when the given 'facts' are unverifiable and totally assumed AT BEST

so in all the paranoia you dont even trust the stats BMW quote on their site now?

YOUR facts are assumed at best. You put a registration into a website and make assumptions based off that.

Do you know what the vehicle was running? Do you know what state of tune? Stock, not stock?

No, you do not.

So forgive me if I abstain from joining the OMG Vehicle X is WHAO SO FAST FOR WHAT IT IS bandwagon when that's the only information you brought to the table.

You then become somewhat baffled because people are discussing your car. I am supposed to wholeheartedly concur with the X6 is a rocketship sentiment when it was up against your something or other BHP golf? It's not like you are driving something of particular prestige and speed that is a known powerhouse and got walked by a soccer mothers diesel wagon. No, you got walked by a soccer mums diesel wagon of assumed spec in your Golf which nobody knows anything about.

Is it not at all plausible that your golf is not as fast as you believe, or would have us believe and your perception of being toasted by an X6 is a little warped?
 
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the changes to my car are just the software and a couple of very basic breathing changes, "thinking out side the box" changes that i cant say ive even seen much discussion about on forums etc

> Your limit, assuming a good map is going to be 200-210 depending on engine, I really don't think that will be enough for an 8s 60-100mph.

dont want to sound rude but can you verify that at all or are you just regurgitating fox's sarcasm?

itll be interesting to see what vagcom says though

Well unless you've discovered some incredible secrets, i'm not aware of any of the standard Golf 1.8T lumps mapping to anything beyond 200-210bhp without getting into the realms of supporting upgrades.

Given a 240bhp R32 with a 6 speed box takes over 9 seconds to do the 60-100mph dash, i'm just very doubtful a 1.8T with a 5 speed box running 200-210bhp is going to manage it a second faster than that.

I'd expect to see it take more like 11 seconds.

I would be genuinely interested to see something though, as if mapping these really does make them *that* fast, i'd be far more interested in getting mine done.
 
the changes to my car are just the software and a couple of very basic breathing changes, "thinking out side the box" changes that i cant say ive even seen much discussion about on forums etc
whats its output with the mods?

the reason for the umming and arring is probably because an X6 will seem quick when its being compared to a mk4 1.8t; though I guess this depends on the tuning. Given its only software and breathing mods, it's probably not as quick as it may appear.
 
YOUR facts are assumed at best. You put a registration into a website and make assumptions based off that.

Do you know what the vehicle was running? Do you know what state of tune? Stock, not stock?

No, you do not.

So forgive me if I abstain form joining the OMG Vehicle X is WHAO SO FAST FOR WHAT IT IS bandwagon when that's the only information you brought to the table.

You then become somewhat baffled because people are discussing your car. Forgive me if I am supposed to wholeheartedly concur with the X6 is a rocketship sentiment when it was up against your somethign or other BHP golf.

in which case you have totally missed the point. your own car, for example, magazine tests quote its quarter mile time in the low 14s, just tenths off the enormous x6.

if you dont appreciate that that is one fell of an achievement and its a diesel you need your head tested
 
But you did not come in here linking BMW official stats and saying WHOA it's so fast for what it is, did you?

No, you came in here baffled about how it walked your....Golf, as if that was some achievement to be in awe of.
 
Get it done then mate, or take your car along to the next dyno day and prove it once and for all.
:)

but dynos really prove nothing.

at the last dyno day i was at, due to high ambient temps, one car that had made 180+bhp weeks earlier only made 160 ish.

fox would pull the dyno lottery card from his oh so predictable box of sarcastic answers and that exercise would have proven nothing either
 
You heard it here first folks.

Dynos prove nothing at all due to variances in testing environments.

But Matt82's golf on the Motorway on hearsay is the yard stick. Can I book a sliproad drag with you so I can finally get my power ouput validated?
 
in which case you have totally missed the point. your own car, for example, magazine tests quote its quarter mile time in the low 14s, just tenths off the enormous x6.

if you dont appreciate that that is one fell of an achievement and its a diesel you need your head tested

Shock horror as stuffing more power into something larger makes it competitive with something less powerful and smaller on a 1/4 mile :confused:
 
Before you get drawn into an argument of semantics, I would like to reiterate I am genuinely interested in the performance of your car, so would appreciate seeing some actual numbers or videos of performance.
 
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