Not my top scorer i support liverpool so dont care what UTD do with him to be honest, Just find it funny how people who called for him to go now dont and dont get why people dont like him. Not every one likes same players as some one else whilst i think Berba has some great technical ability which would have helped vs Barca too i reckon he didnt really suit UTD/Fergie.
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Not my top scorer i support liverpool so dont care what UTD do with him to be honest, Just find it funny how people who called for him to go now dont and dont get why people dont like him. Not every one likes same players as some one else whilst i think Berba has some great technical ability which would have helped vs Barca too i reckon he didnt really suit UTD/Fergie.
Really hope not i dont want him anywhere near us, Don't think he would offer us anything either
Really hope not i dont want him anywhere near us, Don't think he would offer us anything either
No guarantee the player wants to even play for us, he wont be promised regular first team football like he has on a plate with Newcastle.
I know but the thought of him being at liverpool is enough to think god no! RAWK does provide some serious info though and some total crap but its all good and bad atleast its entertaining over there
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Aww mine was sort of on topic 
Come on come on, transfer time.
Come on come on, transfer time.
Seen anything about Jan Vertonghen?
http://www.footballtransfertavern.c...ted-e15m-for-a-player-praised-by-johan-cryuff
Usual no quotes jibber jabber but it's been gaining a bit of attention prior to this. Quite the versatility player I believe. Can play at left back, centre back or defensive mid.
RE: Pastore, Sanchez, Mata etc.. It's just silly season. I've no doubt we'll sign someone like that (though I doubt it's an either/or on Sanchez/Pastore, they're different players), but until it's on the dotted line I'l continue to assume we'll be linked with every fancy dan and his dog with no more substance than "They have a lot of money, they must be interested". I would have thought Mata one of the most likely given Silva has said in the past he would really like him here. He's a fantastic player and we obviously have previous with Valencia so it could be a goer.
Another note regarding Sanchez, was Dzeko was nailed on to Juventus in January too. Apparently we'd been completely usurped. All saw how that turned out. Always a lot of noise coming from Juve. I'l believe it when I see it
Edit: Remember we also have Gai Assaulin who should be back from injury and keen to make an impact, potentially very good things to come from him, and the new kid from Celta Vigo whom we apparently beat a lot to his signiture, Denis Suarez. He's only ickle but you never know! Messi is only 23!
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Yeah I bet Juve are really kicking themselves over that one now
They got Matri on loan instead, he's got 9 in 16 since, Dzeko has managed 6 in 21 for you
They got Matri on loan instead, he's got 9 in 16 since, Dzeko has managed 6 in 21 for you
Yeah I bet Juve are really kicking themselves over that one now
They got Matri on loan instead, he's got 9 in 16 since, Dzeko has managed 6 in 21 for you
You've managed to both miss my point and get Dzeko's stats completely wrong in one fell swoop, well done
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Well I claim no responsability for the accuracy of Wikipedia, sure it's not much better than that though
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So DM's saying that Berbatov was the linchpin to Utd's attack in the 08/09 season and that the Rooney/Ronaldo/Berbatov trio was Utd's best attack? The fact that Utd were a far better attacking side the season before, scored more goals and were more successful the season before when their attack was Tevez/Ronaldo/Rooney, might prove otherwise.
But not wanting to feel left out, well said DM
Don't forget Ronaldo went from a 31 goal spectacular, to a 16-18 goal season. Which pretty much accounts exactly for the 12 less goals they scored in the season. Tevez was hardly prolific at Utd either, some years you score more with a worse attack, sometimes a great attack won't get the goals, thats life.
Berbatov linked up better with Rooney and Ronaldo than Tevez did, which is in large part why Berbatov was played more and did more that next season while Tevez became a bit part player. That doesn't mean Tevez sucked, for me Tevez + Rooney were just the same player trying to do the same role.
Theres ways to twist and use every stat negatively and positively.
When I see Berbatov play I see, posession, fantastic passing, ability to hold it up, ability to, yes, we've seen him run around the outside of decent fullbacks and get in the box, we've seen him do unreal tricks in the area to beat players, great goals, less great goals, great assists, less great ones.
He's a great player, thats what I care about in all this, unlike the people who suggest Adam is crap because ultimately Blackpool went down, a great player is a great player and he really is a great player. Often misused IMHO, yet still effective.
Appearances mean nothing, too often someone who doesn't run after every player all the time gets grief, yet 99% of the time that harassing produces nothing and is a complete waste. Rooney did almost none of that time wasting harassing last season, and he pulled his best scoring season out of a bag, by a massive margin.
Anyway, Berbatov has had 3 excellent seasons for Utd, thats the problem with Utd and other fans, they saw 30mil and thought 30 goals, he wasn't that player when they brought him, he wasn't a Defoe/RVN/Raul/Higuain type player, never remotely pretended to be.
Utd fans didn't see 20+ goals and decided he was crap, in all but a handful of games over 3 seasons he's been excellent.
Theo walcott is absolute tosh, yet he got 9 goals, its literally unbelievable, yet I still wouldn't have him. Its how bad he is for 89 minutes that makes him useless, the 89 minutes where we concede because he doesn't ever put in any defensive effort in the slightest, can't hold posession, can't pass or cross, can't do much of anything.
Even when Berbatov's not scoring he's an always available outball who can do pretty much anything you need with the ball.
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DM a lot of what you say is true. However because we don't play a slow patient build up like arsenal or barca this talent is wasted because we punt it long or drop it off to a winger and ask the to run it up.
Playing Berba on his own and punting to him just never Worked but we never matured past doing that as a team.
Playing Berba on his own and punting to him just never Worked but we never matured past doing that as a team.
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Conte has just taken over at Juve and apparently he doesn't want Aquilani.
He done very well looks to have finally recovered from his injury.
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