** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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"However, I do want to test myself at a higher level if the opportunity arises. My preference is still to play Spain."

Does not compute. He might as well join Celtic or Rangers is he wants to play in a league with only 2 decent teams.

Thats such a tired idea,it really is. Barca and Real are two of the top teams in the world and Spain is a top league. What you are effectively saying is that a player would be better going to an inferior league in Eastern Europe if it has a different league winner every year as that means its a bigger test?

How many leagues in any one season have more than a couple of top sides? Bloody hell, there was a bit of competition throughout the English Premier League this season with all teams beating each other and all anyone would say was that it illustrated a drop in standards!
 
No, it wouldn't be the first time that something has whooshed right past your head. :p Don't worry about it.
So you are trying to pretend it was 'on purpose'... have the rolleyes back then.

Unfortunately I can't link to all the 'lol's at the time as the thread has been 'cleansed'.
 
Pretend? No it was on purpose. I had thought that Baz was picking up on my English in a subtle way that is common with banter on internet forums.

Are you seriously the only person to not think that such a 'perfect' error wasn't deliberate? Don't try and pretend I'm the one who's stupid when it flew right over your head, you got excited and made it into a sig for all to see lol. :p
 
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I saw Sunderland might be interested in Gibson...but we wanted 6m :eek:

If we sold him for 6m that would be the greatest piece of business ever.

6m is peanuts now - surely the 6m we got for Richardson was "worth" more at the time of that transfer (and he was pretty attrocious if you ask me lol)

I wouldnt be surprised if Sunderland brought Brown and Gibson as rumours sugest for 8-9m
 
Only thing he did all season. Hopefully the only player left from the Purslow Hodgson era will be Merieles at the start of next season.

Cole to Spurs should pave the way for Modric to United.
 

lol, that article is hilarious, he was once regarded as the best young player of his generation, he was Englands best player in 2006, he'll be a like for like replacement for Modric, who largely speaking has played a rather withdrawn midfield role, something Cole has never shown the slightest hint of being able to do.

The problem with his leaving I guess will be wages, free transfers are a joke for clubs because, like Cole and apparently Javanovic (supposedly on higher wages than Cole, ouch), they have little reason to go to a new club financially. Spurs pay 3mil and Cole will likely want similar wages, meaning financially he's better off sitting on the bench for 3 years doing nothing than going to Spurs, then he's better off going on another free transfer to get another high wage.

Spurs well, pre Redknapp would never in a million years match or come close to what Cole's on, but now, who knows. He's pony, dissappears in big games, little end product, and his actual ability in terms of tricks is vastly overstated anyway. A rumour suggested that Javanovic got a huge signing on bonus being paid out as wages so is on 120k a week :o

If Liverpool get 3mil out of Spurs for him, they'll have lost money but it won't be bad, thats why I'm hoping we bite the bullet and sell Chamakh, 80k a week to sit on the bench, but so far we've only paid him around 4mil, if we can sell him for 8-10mil we actually make a profit. If he sits on the bench for another season then we sell him, we break even, wait two years longer and we've paid 20mil for a guy who's just not good enough to sit on the bench. Sell now and we can make a healthy profit, chance of Wenger making a good decision now to save us money, not very high.
 
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Has Chamakh been given a good chance since return of RVP though? As before be was back im sure he was doing okay for you wasnt he? It is his first season in the EPL as well.

Idealy what do people want signing wise for their clubs? Honda/Mata/N`Zogbia(only if he is cheap not rumour 15mill etc for him)Pedro Leon who has turned into a bench warmer at madrid young and seems to have some potential so might be worth a try, Adam Johnson from City, New left back just not sure who :(
 
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Chamakhs not bad I don't think, but, while RVP is brilliant as a team we don't seem to play as well, and with Chamakh I think its the other way, he brings the team in more but thats because he's far to cautious, or lazy, and lays it off to others all the time. If you're going for a lone striker you want someone in the middle, RVP's ability to score and take on things on his own, but be more available to bring other people into the game and be able to hold the ball up better.

Neither are suited to our system(the system should change rather than the players though) but for 80k a week he's one of our top earners and just isn't even close to 80k a week good basically or more to the point, if he isn't starting why have someone on the bench for 3 years collecting 80k a week, its just bad business, in Chamakh's case theres plenty of people as good or better who could sit on our bench for half the wage.

Plenty of players do great in their first seasons, infact too many players put in a lot of effort in their first 10-15 games to get the fans onside or confidence from being bought or something, then dissappear, then they'll play great against as a new contract is about to be signed, then dissappear again.

N'zogbia is good enough to be worth 15mil, anything cheaper is a bonus. Goals, assists, speed, dribbling, crossing, not bad set pieces, can play all across midfield, can play left back(and I assume right back), works hard, consistant. I'd take him at Arsenal 15mil, but then we pay Theo 3mil a year so I'd see Kilbane at 15mil as an improvement aswell :p
 

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Do you think Gomes will go after spurs picked up Freidel?

No, I don't.

Spurs could be tempted to sell and bring in transfer funds after landing a like-for-like replacement in Cole

Really? Really really? That's pathetic. Like for like my backside.
 
Henry, Vieira, Gilberto, Flamini, Cole, Reyes, Pires, ffs even Hleb and SOL walked out on Arsenal and asked to leave rather than Wenger upgrading.

I don't think Flamini was the best player in the world, still isn't, but he's a freaking monumental leap up from Diaby/Denilson/Song. The rest were all significantly better than the players who they were "replaced" with.

Personally I'm not convinced that Reyes was better than Van Persie but I suppose one can always argue the toss about who exactly replaced who, especially as it wasn't a case of them leaving and joining at the same time.

I think the main problems we've had in the transfer market are:

1) Letting 'irreplaceable' players in Vieira and Henry go at rock-bottom prices, £30m the pair, when had we cashed in a year earlier you could have doubled that number. Even if 'irreplaceable' is too strong a phrase, they were certainly irrepleceable for the fees we sold them at.
2) Lack of focus on weak positions i.e. DM, instead pursuing the usual Wenger Boys (tricky forwards/AMs - by which I mean if you have a squad with RvP, Arshavin, Walcott, Vela, JET, Fabregas, Nasri, Rosicknote etc you can't play them all at once)
3) Failure to replace backup players like Flamini, Edu, Bergkamp etc with equal quality as you say. Flamini was a weird one because he waited around a few years for his chance, finally got it and then promptly legged it.
4) Overemphasis on DOB i.e. anyone born before the 80s is shipped out or given a 1 year deal e.g. Gallas, Pires etc
5) Allowing 4 of the best 5 CBs to leave in the same summer (Gallas, Campbell, Silvestre, Senderos) leading to panic buys like £6m on Squillacci (ok maybe 'panic' is too strong but clearly more thought/money should have been thrown at the situation)

Not all bad of course and I think Wenger still make some good moves in the transfer market. But one question you would have to ask is in the past couple of years how many genuinely great deals has he pulled off - Vermaelen maybe but haven't seen enough lateley due to his injury.... Arshavin in a good player but wasn't cheap. Nasri was 3 years ago now. Certainly no mega-bargains like Cesc, RvP, Toure, Anelka, Clichy etc.

In terms of 'upgrading' the bench one thing I get confused over is bearing in mind your obsession with wages why we would be looking to do this. Surely the solution for bench players must therefore be putting cheap/youth players there not top quality. I.e. instead of Chamakh and Walcott we should have say Vela and JET on the bench.
 
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Flamini really annoyed me, and not just because he wasn't replaced.

He had already proved he was a fairly competent LB. When finally put into his favoured position (CM) he and Cesc made a 442 partnership that was the best since Gilberto and Vieira. It was rock solid. Sure it was for 1 season, but nowhere did I think 'I hope it holds up' instead more 'oh finally!'. I'm not going to speak for everybody but I'm certain that we all thought that.

For some reason though, instead of bowing to what was a star player's wage demands, even though in previous seasons he rewarded such guys e.g. Henry, Vieira, Pires etc. he let the guy go to AC Milan. If memory serves right they weren't even massive demands either. Another example would be Gallas as well - he clearly had and then proved another good year at least was in him yet for some reason we spent £4m on Squillaci who's of similar age and been gash.

What was Wenger hoping to prove to the rest of the squad. He talked about wage structures and not breaking the bank, instead he seems to have given guys who haven't proved anything a higher average wage and told them that if they do achieve they're not necessarily going to be rewarded. It's stemmed in an attitude that's going to make us into a selling club or one where young players use us to get more money elsewhere.

It's not just AC Milan who are about now. We also have City and others - they know they have a choice.
 
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Dont want cole. Harry seems to love these older generation players at bargain prices who have been playing in the premier league for donkeys years and are being off loaded by their clubs. Gallas, Crouch, Friedal re-signing Keane, interest in Becks, Cole, Oshea, Wes Brown the list goes on.

I know Harry is likely to be off in a year or 2 for the England job so wants quick fix signings, but as a Spurs fan I want to see us investing in young talent, which hasn't seemed to happen since Harry came in. I dont think he really knows what goes on outside of English football.
 
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