New Tyres needed

Raymond Lin · 12 Jun 2011 at 10:57

PMKeates said:
While I admire your quest for matching tyres I am struggling to come to terms with the idea of replacing 3 tyres with 6mm of tread and 1 tyre with 3mm of tread

Hence I at the start i said i replace the fronts, then the rear later, i.e. 6 months from now, before the winter.

Raymond Lin · 12 Jun 2011 at 10:59

PMKeates said:
The 6mm tyres could easily be sold as part worns assuming they are in good condition. Have you checked prices on eBay for them?

Noooo...lol erm, could i suppose but i have no room at home to store spare tyres, apart from the garden.

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:01

Raymond Lin said:
Noooo...lol erm, could i suppose but i have no room at home to store spare tyres, apart from the garden.

So you are going to dump them? :eek:

Snaggle · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:02

PMKeates said:
Something to bear in mind is that it's typically advisable to have the worst pair of tyres on the front of a FWD car, but if you aren't going to be driving it like that for a while I would wait.

Umm sorry ? so the tyres that do a:90% of the braking b: all of the steering c: aply all the power to the road .

Raymond get some £80 a corner stuff and change all 4 .. job done

Persil

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:10

Persil said:
Umm sorry ? so the tyres that do a:90% of the braking b: all of the steering c: aply all the power to the road .

Yes, that's correct. If the front tyres have more grip than the rear tyres in a FWD car than you will encounter oversteer before understeer, and that's generally not a desirable trait.

EDIT:

I thought a TV show had done a feature on this before.

Snaggle · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:19

PMKeates said:
Yes, that's correct. If the front tyres have more grip than the rear tyres in a FWD car than you will encounter oversteer before understeer, and that's generally not a desirable trait.

EDIT:

I thought a TV show had done a feature on this before.

Only in really wet conditions . Hence why tyres should be rotated to keep an even tread depth over all tyres

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:23

Persil said:
Only in really wet conditions . Hence why tyres should be rotated to keep an even tread depth over all tyres

Yes, and it rains, so the general recommendation is to do that. Yes tyres should be rotated but that doesn't change the situation here, as he has one tyre with 3mm of tread and he's replacing an axle's worth of tyres. I am therefore suggesting he fit the new to the back, in concert with all of the safety advice from tyre manufacturers, road safety organisations etc.

GT3 · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:23

How about Conti Sport 2's for £100 each and then get your local tyre place to fit them for max £20 a pair.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s457p61063

Raymond Lin · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:30

PMKeates said:
So you are going to dump them?

Sorry, got them mixed up, 2 Pirelli, 1 Conti

So here is the worksheet...advice?

If I do flog them on ebay, what are the process? Surely people don't expect them to be posted! how much they go for? I have no idea of these things! It's a Tyre ! lol

Yes, I know about the floor mats, they tried to flog me Toyota ones for £56...no i didn't bite, so I got some Official Toyota Yaris ones for £9 off ebay

hux · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:33

Personally id look at hankooks. Got optimos fitted last week and love em, meant to grip and wear very well.

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 11:38

Raymond Lin said:
If I do flog them on ebay, what are the process? Surely people don't expect them to be posted! how much they go for? I have no idea of these things! It's a Tyre ! lol

Where do you live? If it's reasonably well populated, or you have a friend who lives in London or similar that can sell them for you, just advertise them as collection only.

Minstadave · 12 Jun 2011 at 12:32

PMKeates said:
In fact, as you've 3mm left on the tyre, I would wait until you actually want to/can afford to replace all four. You realise the legal limit is 1.6mm?

So you advise buying £150 a corner CS3s for a Yaris to get the UBER BREAKING and then advise wearing them down to the legal limit before changing them?

[TW]Fox · 12 Jun 2011 at 12:35

Joshy said:
I think the question in this case is where exactly do you draw the line? Would you bung CS3s on a £1000 Ford Focus? A friend of a friend wants tyre suggestions for her 68bhp 107, do you tell her to go for top of the line bridgestones twice the price of Toyos even though all she uses her car for is pottering about town at 15MPH?

I tend to follow the method of buying the best possible tyre thats suited to the car.

This means when I buy tyres for my car, I buy the current 'best' high end tyre. When I buy tyres for my girlfriends car, I buy the current 'best' small car tyres.

This doesn't mean I'd fit CS3's to a Corsa but it does mean I'd fit Conti PremiumContacts to a Corsa, if that makes sense.

The smaller the tyres the lower the price differential between the best and the cheap anyway, so the less sense it makes to skimp.

I paid something like 60 quid for ContiPremiumContacts for my sisters Mazda3. Even if SuperHankookHappyGoLucky's were HALF the price you've only saved 30 quid a tyre for a car that will go 20k+ between needing tyres, so whats the point?

bledd · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:42

Hankook V12 Evo

They're about £80 each in that size

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2009-AMS-summer-and-winter-tyre-test.htm

Gaijin · 12 Jun 2011 at 14:30

Whatever you decide, take a look on blackcircles.com or etyres.co.uk, prices are good and include fitting. Can even get mobile tyre fitting if you are in a pinch.

BigglesPiP · 12 Jun 2011 at 16:18

Early opinion of Continental Premium Contact: Quiet, really really quiet. Sturdy grip in wet and in dry. Less feel then the GSD3s I had before (duh).

Whole of life opinion of the GSD3: Epic feel, too much TBH, was annoying trying to cruise on anything other than billiard table flat roads. Very good grip. Wears out as fast as everyone said they would (13K and had flush wear bars). As they wore they got noisy, to the point where if you boot it you hear the increase in tyre noise over the exhaust! Loose balance terribly as they wear, if I used the motorway more than I do I'd have had them re-balanced once or twice. Oh and they pick up a lot of stones.

Raymond Lin · 12 Jun 2011 at 19:32

Gayjin said:
Whatever you decide, take a look on blackcircles.com or etyres.co.uk, prices are good and include fitting. Can even get mobile tyre fitting if you are in a pinch.

Cheers mate, will certainly put that price to my dealer and get them to price match it. They actually said there's lots of room to negotiate on the tyres.

One thing I do hope with a set of identical gyres is to minimise tyre noise, I dunno if it's because they are different or one is on 3mm, at about 50mph+ on A roads, there's quite a bit of tyre noise, compare to say...my sister's 1 series or dad's A6. Not an accurate scientific comparison as there are lots of variables but just what I notice.

Kenai · 12 Jun 2011 at 19:33

That's just because it's a Yaris and it won't have vast amounts of sound deadening. Tyre noise is to be expected.

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 19:33

Raymond Lin said:
One thing I do hope with a set of identical gyres is to minimise tyre noise, I dunno if it's because they are different or one is on 3mm, at about 50mph+ on A roads, there's quite a bit of tyre noise.

That's unfortunately because you are driving a Yaris

Beans on toast Dave · 12 Jun 2011 at 19:35

whats the spare like? if its new might be worthwhile using that and getting one to match, using the 3mm one for the spare as long as its not a space saver wheel