Got the sack.

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The job was in a call centre which was the main contact centre for the company taking customers orders, checking stock, answering queries and that sort of thing. I had been working part time in the evenings there for 5 months and arrived at work on the Friday only to be taken into a room with the contact centre manager and a team leader to be told my contract is being terminated with immediate effect for gross misconduct and therefore they don’t have to pay me any notice and I was escorted out of the building and was told they’d be writing to me confirming it.

At the time I was in shock and barely said a word and now I’m fuming to be honest but I’m wondering what rights do I have, as first of all I don’t think I’ve done anything that would be considered “gross misconduct” nor have I had any warnings and have had 3 reviews which were all positive and past my 3 months probation, but as I understand it I haven’t worked there for a year and so I have fewer rights etc.

There explanation for gross misconduct was that, the night previously and I will admit, I got a little stressy with a customer who spoke hardly any English and after he hung up I swore which was in earshot of a colleague which obviously in a call centre a customer could hear, now no one else was on the phone at the time and they didn’t actually mention the swearing part, just that I was “irate” at a customer and that it wasn't up to there high standards, but surely people have off days/moments and have emotions etc. At the time the shift supervisor did have a word with me in private obviously stating I can't do that and they said it was her opinion that I was unwilling to change, when in fact I wouldn't accept her saying it was a habit of mine when it isn't.

I understand I shouldn’t of acted that way and that it was unprofessional of me but don’t feel its gross misconduct especially since it was my first time, have had no previous warnings and well I didn’t swear at the customer and did actually try my best for the customer but it was just a language barrier, I mean it’s not like I even had a disciplinary hearing where I could have at least acknowledge I was wrong, apologise and promise it wouldn’t happen again.
I have looked over my contract and it states:

“The company has the right to terminate your employment without notice or payment in lieu of notice in the event that you commit a fundamental breach of contract”

What can I actually do though to appeal this, I've read I have no legal recourse for a tribunal for unfair dismissal because I haven't worked there for a year, but then what is the point of having a probation period? that might as well be 12 months.

Anyway, thanks for reading.
 
If you swore, i don't think you could really appeal. I think they wanted to fire you and just wanted an excuse to do so as that's just being ridiculously pedantic!
 
Unlucky mate, you have to be soo careful in a call centre enviroment, dont really matter if a colleague hears, but chances are if they do, then a potential customer etc could hear.

should have just put the phone down then gone for a quick 2 minute break to chill ya heels, if the job is highly stressed then higher up's should understand :)
 
No, they do have stores all over the country but I was working at there main HQ so to speak in the call centre which took calls on behalf of all the stores.

Ah just wondered, as my old company are finding ways to sack people for anything. If i did what you did at my old company (call center) it would be a written warning.

TBH its a blessing in disguise. I almost went mad after 3 years in a call center. NEVER again!
 
To be honest, there had been problems between me a college who just so happened to be my team leaders son, he criticised me twice in quick succession saying I’m lazy and so I said shut up and that’s it not your place to criticise, if you feel I’m doing something wrong speak to a supervisor. He has since had a pop at all the new evening staff and this was about 2 months ago but there has been tension between 3 of us who are all a bit older/mature when him and his mate are immature, annoying 16 year olds and there's been a few conflicts between us 3 and them, no warning though or anything, just talking to, and I have ignored him for the past 2 months, he does get away with everything though since his mum is a team leader there.
 
To be honest, there had been problems between me a college who just so happened to be my team leaders son, he criticised me twice in quick succession saying I’m lazy and so I said shut up and that’s it not your place to criticise, if you feel I’m doing something wrong speak to a supervisor. He has since had a pop at all the new evening staff and this was about 2 months ago but there has been tension between 3 of us who are all a bit older/mature when him and his mate are immature, annoying 16 year olds and there's been a few conflicts between us 3 and them.

TBH its a blessing in disguise.
 
You have been sacked on a technicality because you didn't get on with the Team leaders son. It's a no brainer. You would have had to tow the line very carefully to stand a chance of staying there. Don't dwell on it, take it as a learning experience and go get a better job for moar monies! :)
 
Yeh, I'm not dwelling to much, just a bit annoyed as how am I going to explain this to future employers?

I did work at Morrisons for 3+ years and will be the first time I'm unemployed since leaving school and really only have a phone contract to pay each month and mum paid of my insurance for the year to which I pay her back so she'll obviously understand not getting paid for the meanwhile and I should still get £350+ for working this month so I'm not worrying to much about the money and will be going college again in September to do an access course.

Really don't get the point of a probation period though if they can still seemingly get rid of you easily enough within the first 12 months anyway.
 
Problem is its a generic call centre job you're not valuable enough (on paper) to them in that particular role for them to make any allowances at all as far as rule breaking is concerned. Essentially if someone above you has taken a disliking to you and they have something on record that they could sack you for then you're not in a good situation. You'll just have to suck it up in these sorts of roles, no point starting a row with a supervisor etc.. if you've got no position/status in the organisation.

If you were a recruit in the army and some NCO has had a word with you over some incident its definitely not wise (even if you're absolutely sure you're right) to try and argue with them. You wait until you've got some status... an experienced private or lance corporal can argue (to an extent) with a corporal (so long as they have their feet together) and an experienced corporal or Sgt can have a few very blunt/choice words with the platoon commander (so long as it isn't done in front of the rest of the guys).

Likewise in business you need to have established yourself a bit before you start having any form of confrontation with people above you in a particular organsiation. If you know full well you're a valuable resource then you can push boundaries further tbh... but in general you'll need to have established yourself a bit before you start picking fights.

Sucks that you've been sacked but tbh.. just as you were just a general bod on paper to them I'm pretty sure they were just some general company offering a joe job to you - move on and find a better place tbh...
 
Yeh, I'm not dwelling to much, just a bit annoyed as how am I going to explain this to future employers?

You don't have to get a reference from your boss. It can be from another manager. For my current job I gave references from 2 and 3 jobs previously. It's really not a problem.

If a future employer asks. Just say you left as you wanted to go to college. There is always a way around these minor set backs. :)
 
Yeh dowie, very true. I just don't see myself bending over enough I guess, like with the supervisor, I'm not rude or anything, just if I feel there wrongly accusing me of something then I'll say. It was like my pay, after 3 months and the successful completion of my probation period I was to be paid more, but was informed because I started on the 7th Feb, the 3 months only starts on the 1st of March so I kindly queried it asking why this was the case and why the first 3 weeks didn't count, they came back and said that's how it worked and it starts on the 1st of the month, I simply said ok thankyou no problem but she seemed annoyed that I asked even though of course they always encourage you to speak to them if you got any problems etc.
 
You don't have to get a reference from your boss. It can be from another manager. For my current job I gave references from 2 and 3 jobs previously. It's really not a problem.

If a future employer asks. Just say you left as you wanted to go to college. There is always a way around these minor set backs. :)

Sounds good thanks, think I'll just put down Morrisons, only resigned from there as they cut my hours down to much and this place was offering the perfect amount of hours etc, argh well.
 
You don't get references from managers anyway, not from a company like that.
The request will go to HR.
 
Call centres are the easiest places to get sacked from, I got the sack (well kinda it was a temp role) for telling one of the team leaders I didn't particularly enjoy working there (well I may have been a little more stern than that). Got call the same day from the agency that evening telling me not to go back in the next day. Don't really care, I did hate working there and I got a nicer job as a result.
 
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