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Okay you want my contribution?
You are crying about racism, yet you are protecting what they have done on account of their race; hypocrite yourself much?
Gypsy gang deliberately drowned pony.
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You are crying about racism, yet you are protecting what they have done on account of their race; hypocrite yourself much?
They drown horses at the Appleby Fair as well.
Poor horses look terrified in those pictures
No they don't.
We could talk national hunt horses and how many die each year in racing.
As for the guy that went into the river to rescue the pony, he is lucky he is not dead, getting behind a panicking animal is not a good idea. Something went badly wrong.
As for the slating of gypsy's in very sweeping statements is just ridiculous.
Got no time for ****** - round my mums way they steal everything, from manhole/drain covers, to telephone wire, horse boxes/transporters, farm machinery, vehicles, stuff from the corner shop (they buy stuff with a wad of 50's, but still load up their pockets with items they have no intention of paying for). They even stole the aluminium railings on a foot-bridge over the canal in the city where I live, twice! lol.
They threaten local farmers and shopkeepers with violence and arson if they have the temerity to stand up for themselves or their property - they have gone as far as carrying out their threats of arson on several of the farmers barns and equipment.
They hunt with illegal firearms and dogs, committing armed trespass on private land.... to you and I, that is a very serious offence indeed.
They leave human faeces and nappies and all manner of other rubbish littered over grass verges and hedgerows/ditches anywhere they are not moved on from immediately.
You often see the young lads thrashing the life out of a pony in a trap to make it go faster (I don't mean urging the animal on with the whip, I mean sustained and continual whipping) I know the difference between guiding a horse and mistreating it, and they are most definitely mistreating the animal.
Recently they were involved in a fatal traffic accident outside one of their transitory camps and refused to admit any involvement - they didn't even report the accident, but just drove off and left the scene.
This litany of antisocial acts would land any of us in jail, but because they are 'ethnic innit' there appears to be some special exemption that means the police will not do anything - they'll not even enter these semi-permanent sites to recover a stolen horse transporter, even when the owners neighbour had seen them stealing it and followed them to the camp. Unless there's an arv unit or a riot van available, and even then the planets have to be in the proper alignment.
All sorts of people bang on about equality and rights. Most of these ******'* deserve none because they have absolutely no regard for anyone but themselves.
Not all gypsies are like this, but the older generation of traditional travellers who had some pride and respect for their heritage and respect for others seem few and far between, as are those other travellers who behave decently - it could be argued that you only hear about the bad stuff, and I'll readily accept that. But there's a lot of the bad stuff that has and continues to happen where I grew up.
With a reputation for behaving like I have related above, is it any wonder most people think they're scum and ostracise them?
Simple fact is many travellers don't want to settle down anywhere permanent - that would mean they have to pay tax like everyone else, get educated and have jobs like everyone else.
They don't respect the law or property or land ownership or pretty much anything everyone else values or abides by (in general terms).
I can admire their stubbornness and individuality, but not at my, or anyone else's expense. Unfortunately, their well deserved reputation precedes them most everywhere they go. Catch 22? maybe, but it doesn't stop most of the ****** I know of behaving like criminal gangs.
As for the article, well, I must admit my own prejudice there when I read the original story a short while back - my first thought was 'damn ******'. It might be that the facts of the incident make my initial appraisal unwarranted, but it wouldn't be surprising to me or anyone else who had the same thought if it were correct. That in itself is unfortunate for a good many reasons.
They threaten local farmers and shopkeepers with violence and arson if they have the temerity to stand up for themselves or their property - they have gone as far as carrying out their threats of arson on several of the farmers barns and equipment.
They hunt with illegal firearms and dogs, committing armed trespass on private land.... to you and I, that is a very serious offence indeed.
They leave human faeces and nappies and all manner of other rubbish littered over grass verges and hedgerows/ditches anywhere they are not moved on from immediately.
You often see the young lads thrashing the life out of a pony in a trap to make it go faster (I don't mean urging the animal on with the whip, I mean sustained and continual whipping) I know the difference between guiding a horse and mistreating it, and they are most definitely mistreating the animal.
Recently they were involved in a fatal traffic accident outside one of their transitory camps and refused to admit any involvement - they didn't even report the accident, but just drove off and left the scene.
This litany of antisocial acts would land any of us in jail, but because they are 'ethnic innit' there appears to be some special exemption that means the police will not do anything - they'll not even enter these semi-permanent sites to recover a stolen horse transporter, even when the owners neighbour had seen them stealing it and followed them to the camp. Unless there's an arv unit or a riot van available, and even then the planets have to be in the proper alignment.
All sorts of people bang on about equality and rights. Most of these ******'* deserve none because they have absolutely no regard for anyone but themselves.
Not all gypsies are like this, but the older generation of traditional travellers who had some pride and respect for their heritage and respect for others seem few and far between, as are those other travellers who behave decently - it could be argued that you only hear about the bad stuff, and I'll readily accept that. But there's a lot of the bad stuff that has and continues to happen where I grew up.
With a reputation for behaving like I have related above, is it any wonder most people think they're scum and ostracise them?
Simple fact is many travellers don't want to settle down anywhere permanent - that would mean they have to pay tax like everyone else, get educated and have jobs like everyone else.
They don't respect the law or property or land ownership or pretty much anything everyone else values or abides by (in general terms).
I can admire their stubbornness and individuality, but not at my, or anyone else's expense. Unfortunately, their well deserved reputation precedes them most everywhere they go. Catch 22? maybe, but it doesn't stop most of the ****** I know of behaving like criminal gangs.
As for the article, well, I must admit my own prejudice there when I read the original story a short while back - my first thought was 'damn ******'. It might be that the facts of the incident make my initial appraisal unwarranted, but it wouldn't be surprising to me or anyone else who had the same thought if it were correct. That in itself is unfortunate for a good many reasons.
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http://www.politics.co.uk/opinion-f...ed-for-drowning-a-horse-at-appleby-horse-fair
Yeah, well lets start a thread about that when it happens. Put the strawman down.
Yes it's unlucky really, as the one who went to save to horse got a kick; at least he damn well tried!
Theres normally a lot of truth to generalisations, don't you know? I can't think of one positive thing they contribute.
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You better like it, or else.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3686926/Pony-drowned-in-lake-by-yobs.html
yobs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-14097779
a group of people (inb4 pc gone maaaaad)
So all of this is because of a daily fail headline... for shame ocuk, for shame... Im sure there is a rush on at the hospitals up and down the country, broken noses everywhere and whiplash from the knee-jerking in here.
yobs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-14097779
a group of people (inb4 pc gone maaaaad)
So all of this is because of a daily fail headline... for shame ocuk, for shame... Im sure there is a rush on at the hospitals up and down the country, broken noses everywhere and whiplash from the knee-jerking in here.
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I know tarmacers who have done extremely well for themselves.
They are the most hardworking, genuine and nicest people you could hope to meet.
They are the most hardworking, genuine and nicest people you could hope to meet.
Got no time for ****** - round my mums way they steal everything, from manhole/drain covers, to telephone wire, horse boxes/transporters, farm machinery, vehicles, stuff from the corner shop (they buy stuff with a wad of 50's, but still load up their pockets with items they have no intention of paying for). They even stole the aluminium railings on a foot-bridge over the canal in the city where I live, twice! lol.
They threaten local farmers and shopkeepers with violence and arson if they have the temerity to stand up for themselves or their property - they have gone as far as carrying out their threats of arson on several of the farmers barns and equipment.
They hunt with illegal firearms and dogs, committing armed trespass on private land.... to you and I, that is a very serious offence indeed.
They leave human faeces and nappies and all manner of other rubbish littered over grass verges and hedgerows/ditches anywhere they are not moved on from immediately.
You often see the young lads thrashing the life out of a pony in a trap to make it go faster (I don't mean urging the animal on with the whip, I mean sustained and continual whipping) I know the difference between guiding a horse and mistreating it, and they are most definitely mistreating the animal.
Recently they were involved in a fatal traffic accident outside one of their transitory camps and refused to admit any involvement - they didn't even report the accident, but just drove off and left the scene.
This litany of antisocial acts would land any of us in jail, but because they are 'ethnic innit' there appears to be some special exemption that means the police will not do anything - they'll not even enter these semi-permanent sites to recover a stolen horse transporter, even when the owners neighbour had seen them stealing it and followed them to the camp. Unless there's an arv unit or a riot van available, and even then the planets have to be in the proper alignment.
All sorts of people bang on about equality and rights. Most of these ******'* deserve none because they have absolutely no regard for anyone but themselves.
Not all gypsies are like this, but the older generation of traditional travellers who had some pride and respect for their heritage and respect for others seem few and far between, as are those other travellers who behave decently - it could be argued that you only hear about the bad stuff, and I'll readily accept that. But there's a lot of the bad stuff that has and continues to happen where I grew up.
With a reputation for behaving like I have related above, is it any wonder most people think they're scum and ostracise them?
Simple fact is many travellers don't want to settle down anywhere permanent - that would mean they have to pay tax like everyone else, get educated and have jobs like everyone else.
They don't respect the law or property or land ownership or pretty much anything everyone else values or abides by (in general terms).
I can admire their stubbornness and individuality, but not at my, or anyone else's expense. Unfortunately, their well deserved reputation precedes them most everywhere they go. Catch 22? maybe, but it doesn't stop most of the ****** I know of behaving like criminal gangs.
As for the article, well, I must admit my own prejudice there when I read the original story a short while back - my first thought was 'damn ******'. It might be that the facts of the incident make my initial appraisal unwarranted, but it wouldn't be surprising to me or anyone else who had the same thought if it were correct. That in itself is unfortunate for a good many reasons.
i could go to a council estate called Marsh Farm in Luton and seen worse than that.
yet another sweeping bigoted generalisation
Nice to know what some of you think of my family & heritage. I'm not even here to prove you wrong. I will say just one thing.
When I was at school I was the dirty gypo *******.
My mate was the Dirty black *******.
My other mate was the dirty **** *******.
You know who gives us all our names.
You dirty White ********.
When I was at school I was the dirty gypo *******.
My mate was the Dirty black *******.
My other mate was the dirty **** *******.
You know who gives us all our names.
You dirty White ********.
I'd agree with that, and I like how you differentiated between ****** and gypsies. Where abouts in the Mids are you from dude?. I'm from Dudley, we have quite a few gypsy communities scattered about.
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So the guys bigoted for sharing experiences that his family and locals have experienced? Jesus Christ man!i could go to a council estate called Marsh Farm in Luton and seen worse than that.
yet another sweeping bigoted generalisation
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That's cool you can call me a honkey or whatever you want but don't come crying when you get called names back.
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It's unbelievable that posters in this thread actually believe Gypsies were purposely drowning a pony in front of witnesses.
It is very common practise after a hard days work of ripping people off that Gypsies take their ponies & traps into water to refresh them and clean them off.
Obviously something went wrong, so called witnesses made their own events up and we all know Gypsies don't like to clean their mess up because they're scum.
It is very common practise after a hard days work of ripping people off that Gypsies take their ponies & traps into water to refresh them and clean them off.
Obviously something went wrong, so called witnesses made their own events up and we all know Gypsies don't like to clean their mess up because they're scum.