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What's stoipping Barca freom saying they want him back when they actually don't - just to try and get an extra 28m euros -?

Well the first stumbling block would be when Roma turn round and say "no". Then barca are left in a position where they have to pay Roma 13m to get him back which they are obliged to.

Liverpool loaned out Scott Carson to Villa for a season a few years back, Villa paid us close to £2m, Tevez cost Utd anything up to £10m for 2 seasons. You don't pay clubs to take your players on loan, certainly not players of the calibre of Bojan anyway.

If they just wanted to loan him out, there would be plenty of clubs that would be willing to take him without Barca having to pay anything out and most likely willing to pay Barca a decent loan fee too.

So they would loan him out, maybe have to subsidise his wages and then get him back in 2 years for nothing.

Or they don't pay any of his wages, get 12m in the bank and if they want him back in two years, they stump up what would probably amount to the interest earned on the 12m they were paid for him.

Its like a loan deal but with no downsides for the selling club.
 
Can we not get rid of them both?
I'm going to ask Gilly for mod status, just in this thread. Then every time the words "Valencia" or "Carrick" pop up, BAM, post deleted. :cool:

Actually hell, no need for me. There's got to be an automated script that can do that.
 
Any news on Villa moving away from Barca? Sanchez looks like its a done deal but didn't they want to sell Villa to finace the Fab deal? Who would replace Villa?
 
JET will never be good enough to be part of a top 4 squad, certainly, certainly not now. Including him would be wasting the club's money and wasting his time.

It comes as no surprise that the suggestion is from crazy brain
5 *s :D
 
I'd take that and buy a new forward and centre back.

I dont know why Levy (or wheeler dealer 'Arry) dont snap their hands off for that kind of money

Well the first stumbling block would be when Roma turn round and say "no". Then barca are left in a position where they have to pay Roma 13m to get him back which they are obliged to.
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All I was trying to say was that there seems to be a huge gap in the middle which could leave the player in limbo for several reasons

1) He hasnt made enough progression so it isnt worth Barca paying 13m euros for to get back (and therefore Roma also dont want to pay an additional 28m euros to keep him for the same reason)

2) What happens if his ability is somewhere in the middle (lets say 25-30m euros in total - clearly a much better player than above) - Probably even at that point Barca are already going to have several choices around that ability or better to not suit their plans, but also hugely overpriced from Roma's point of view)

Im not even thinking of the possibility that Roma could put a huge amount of effort into training him etc etc and are forced to sell back a player for a fraction of his worth and basically get **** all from the deal
 
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I'd take that and buy a new forward and centre back.

Spurs are already in the market for both. Selling Modric won't make a difference. £35mil would allow us to bid on expensive players who won't want to sign for Spurs and/or inflate the price of players we're already bidding on.
 
Spurs are already in the market for both. Selling Modric won't make a difference. £35mil would allow us to bid on expensive players who won't want to sign for Spurs and/or inflate the price of players we're already bidding on.


By the same token, hanging on to Modric isnt going to do spurs any good either.
35 million quid is a ******* **** load of money, its enough to buy several smaller football clubs.
It could quite easily buy 3 decent strikers, or god knows how many unknown rough diamonds that could change spurs future.
 
So they would loan him out, maybe have to subsidise his wages and then get him back in 2 years for nothing.

Or they don't pay any of his wages, get 12m in the bank and if they want him back in two years, they stump up what would probably amount to the interest earned on the 12m they were paid for him.

Its like a loan deal but with no downsides for the selling club.

Firstly if Barca made Bojan available on loan they would have no shortage of offers to take him off their hands and it would cost Barca nothing both in terms of wages.

Also, I'm guessing you didn't read my earlier posts on the subject either. The reason why the deal makes no sense to Barca is if they're obliged to offer Roma 13m to buy him back in 2 years (which appears to be stated). If it's simply an option to buy him back then it's fine.
 
Firstly if Barca made Bojan available on loan they would have no shortage of offers to take him off their hands and it would cost Barca nothing both in terms of wages.

Also, I'm guessing you didn't read my earlier posts on the subject either. The reason why the deal makes no sense to Barca is if they're obliged to offer Roma 13m to buy him back in 2 years (which appears to be stated). If it's simply an option to buy him back then it's fine.

Makes no sense?

Bojan isn't that good, remember the players he has around him, sure hes only 20 years old, but he is also only 5 foot 7, if he was that good then im sure Barca would keep a hold of him, he has played over 100 games for the first team and doesn't look anywhere near good enough to play for Spurs never mind Barca.

He is of course still learning and needs regular experience. They get to loan him out and gain 12 million in the process, if Roma want to keep him after 2 years they then need to pay a further 28 million. Barca can buy back after 2 years for 13 million, in effect they loan him out for 2 years and pay 1 million for it and zero wages.

Basically Barca are going to pay Roma 1 million for Bojan to get 2 years of experience.

What i dont understand about the deal is: what happens after 2 years if neither club wants him? can he leave on a free? if so, Barca make 12 million for a dud player.

seems like a smart move, Bojan is completely unproven, he has done a poor job being a striker in Barca with the players he has and Barca can no longer risk playing him in first team games, he isn't good enough.
 
Firstly if Barca made Bojan available on loan they would have no shortage of offers to take him off their hands and it would cost Barca nothing both in terms of wages.

Also, I'm guessing you didn't read my earlier posts on the subject either. The reason why the deal makes no sense to Barca is if they're obliged to offer Roma 13m to buy him back in 2 years (which appears to be stated). If it's simply an option to buy him back then it's fine.

name a decent team who would take a 20 year old who is a 5 foot 7 and in over 100 first team appearances as a striker for Barcelona only scored 26 times with the best players around him.

in the premiership he would be lucky to score 1 goal in 10 games. he simply isnt that good. whether he matures or not is a different matter. if he was at any other team, nobody would even know his name.
 
name a decent team who would take a 20 year old who is a 5 foot 7 and in over 100 first team appearances as a striker for Barcelona only scored 26 times with the best players around him.

in the premiership he would be lucky to score 1 goal in 10 games. he simply isnt that good. whether he matures or not is a different matter. if he was at any other team, nobody would even know his name.

How many of them are subs though. Being 20 and playing 100+ games alone for Barcelona is good enough for most teams!
 
Spurs will probaly sell Modric and take Joe Cole of Liverpools hands as a replacement, just because he has already played under Harry, and seems to like that.
 
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