** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Stag said:
Just because he didn't score or make assists doesn't mean he didn't contribute, he was still an integral part of your midfield linking it all together.
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He really wasnt. He started like an express train and faded badly. He became very much a bit part player culminating in the FA cup semi and i think he realised he simply couldnt do it any more.

Replacing an in-his-prime Scholes is an impossible task - hes was a genius, but the reality is that we havent had that player for a number of years.
 
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In a world where Daniel Sturridge is apparently worth about £12m you are wrong.

External factors dont matter. If you were trying to buy Hernandez there would be numerous factors and none of them would be overcome with a bid south of £30m. He is already a proven scorer at International level as well as the PL and CL, its not Michael Rickets we're talking about here!! :D
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I take it Odemwingie is a 20m player then?
 
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In a world where Daniel Sturridge is apparently worth about £12m you are wrong.

External factors dont matter. If you were trying to buy Hernandez there would be numerous factors and none of them would be overcome with a bid south of £30m. He is already a proven scorer at International level as well as the PL and CL, its not Michael Rickets we're talking about here!!
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I simply disagree, I think he's an exciting young talent don't get me wrong and also I don't think that a) he'd be for sale at any price and b) that any team would be that interested right now but a player with 15 starts, 12 of which as a sub in the Premier League is not worth 30 million.

Not to mention 9 of his 13 goals came against WBA (2), Wigan (2), Stoke (3), Blackpool (1) and West Ham (1).

See how he does next season, if plays regularly and gets 20odd goals then I'll give you a 30 million valuation.
 
Rich_L said:
I simply disagree, I think he's an exciting young talent don't get me wrong and also I don't think that a) he'd be for sale at any price and b) that any team would be that interested right now but a player with 15 starts, 12 of which as a sub in the Premier League is not worth 30 million.

Not to mention 9 of his 13 goals came against WBA (2), Wigan (2), Stoke (3), Blackpool (1) and West Ham (1).

See how he does next season, if plays regularly and gets 20odd goals then I'll give you a 30 million valuation.
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Fair do's, its all about opinions isnt it?

Ive seen so many Manuchos and Dongs pass through the OT doors that perhaps i go a bit OTT when we finally hit gold.

I think he is genuine quality though and your 20 goal target will be easily achieved if he plays enough next season.

We have a hellish mess of strikers right now that need to be sorted out into some sort of pecking order though.
 
It's hard to say Utd have strengthened over the transfer window especially if Jones is considered one for the future then Young and De Gea are just replacements for retired players (Scholes and VDS respectively). Funny decision really though it's still a long time to go in the window, though the Sneijder and Nasri rumours have basically died it seems.
 
Rich_L said:
It's hard to say Utd have strengthened over the transfer window especially if Jones is considered one for the future then Young and De Gea are just replacements for retired players (Scholes and VDS respectively). Funny decision really though it's still a long time to go in the window, though the Sneijder and Nasri rumours have basically died it seems.
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Neither Nasri or Sneijder make much sense in reality.

Id argue that most of the competition has gone backwards this summer.
 
Stag said:
Not when you factor in Barcelona.
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You cant base an entire squad on the idea that at some point you may have to play Barca in a cup competition, maybe.

Lets put this to bed.

Barca are a great team and they can beat most teams in the world when they click into gear. However you shouldnt base buys and sells on the off chance that you draw them in a cup game.

Man Utd will continue to aim for winning the league and buy players accordingly.
 
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Neither Nasri or Sneijder make much sense in reality.

Id argue that most of the competition has gone backwards this summer.
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Not sure I would agree that most of the competition has gone backwards. Some have improved, some have stayed the same, but wouldn't yet say that most have gone backwards.
 
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If the team is good enough to win the PL its good enough to win the CL.
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No it isn't. We have not really improved the squad at all imo, and I can see the likes of Barca widening the gap even further :( especially if they sign Fabregas and Sanchez.
We will probably scrape the League again if we are lucky.
 
Tombstone said:
Not sure I would agree that most of the competition has gone backwards. Some have improved, some have stayed the same, but wouldn't yet say that most have gone backwards.
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It's a little too early to say as a couple transfers either way will make a huge difference.

Chelsea - Basically the same, new manager will be interesting, if they get Modric then probably strengthened slightly but unpredictability of new manager makes it difficult.
Arsenal - Massively dependent on Cesc/Nasri situation, god knows what direction they will go in :p
Man City - Tevezwtflol?? Still a strong squad though esp. if they get Aguero.
Spurs - Stationary so far, no real signing rumours and potential to get worse by losing Modric
Liverpool - Improved definitely.

Outside that it seems most of the lower teams a) don't have any money and b) have had their best/better players poached so seem less competitive.
 
Moses said:
You're literally mental!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=19631363&postcount=8451

Arsenal - they've strengthened.
Chelsea - same as last year.
Manyoo - arguably the same kinda standard as last year.
Citeh - strengethened.
Liverpool - signed anyone who's English.

Who's gone backwards, and why would you say that?
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Chelsea have a new unproved PL manager.

Arsenal have two main players wanting to leave

City have their main man up for sale, a player without whom they looked hellish last season.

Liverpool werent even challengers last year.

There are huge question marks over these teams. Yes, one could turn out to be great but id struggle to see why anything any one of them has done threatens the title we won.
 
lee32uk said:
No it isn't. We have not really improved the squad at all imo, and I can see the likes of Barca widening the gap even further :( especially if they sign Fabregas and Sanchez.
We will probably scrape the League again if we are lucky.
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Barca strengthening doesnt affect us "scraping the league"

Winning the league is a great achievement. How the hell can you criticise a team that you think can win the league?

When this era of success is over fans like you will be in for one hell of a shock. Some of us remember Big Fat Ron and QPR players scoring hat-tricks against us.
 
_Jimlad_ said:
great.....

might win the league, but wont win the CL then!
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not sure about that, by losing Scholes, Hargreaves, Gibson (possibly), Giggs being a year older and Fletcher still sick, the MF is sufficiently weaker than it was last season.

Unless SAF plans to play Rooney or Jones in CM for long spells, he really has to bring someone else in.

a couple of injuries could be totally devastating
 
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Chelsea have a new unproved PL manager.

Arsenal have two main players wanting to leave

City have their main man up for sale, a player without whom they looked hellish last season.

Liverpool werent even challengers last year.

There are huge question marks over these teams. Yes, one could turn out to be great but id struggle to see why anything any one of them has done threatens the title we won.
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So what you are actually saying is..

Chelsea have a new manager, its yet to be seen whether Villa Boas will be good or bad, lets not forget that Mourinho was an unproven PL manager too. So either way they are at the least the same as before, not really backwards.

Arsenal as yet havent lost either of the two players, they may do, they may not, so again as yet they havent gone backwards they are at least the same.

City may lost Tevez, city may gain Aguero. Again, neither has yet happened so at the least they are the same, if tevez stays and aguero comes they will have improved, so again, not really backwards.

Liverpool ended the second half of the season well last year, in the summer they havent lost any major players and have gained additional players, so at the least they are the same + new players, again hardly backwards.

Just not sure how given what you are saying you reach the conclusion that most of the competition has gone backwards. Even Fergie himself says that all of those are challengers this year, but then what would he know about football eh :D
 
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No central midfielder then. The one main thing (aside from GK) we needed, we haven't got... excellent :o

I hope the CM's up their game a LOT then. They need to, no more farting about.
 
Moses said:
Chelsea have the most exciting young manager in the World.

Arsenal's new signing scored a brace on debut, and their best defender is back from injury.

Citeh are looking at signing Agüero/have Balotelli + Džeko who should have better seasons this year (as last year one was signed half way through the year, one had a season disrupted by injury).

Liverpool's form after January/when Dalglish took over was very good.

ZOMG, I CAN SPIN TOO.
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Im not trying to spin. A question was asked so i tried to answer it.

Are Arsenal stronger?

Their main player and second main player want to leave. Their one signing looks good but came off after 30mins.

Are Chelsea stronger?

Impossible to say because they have a brand new manager. Could be terrible - BPS, could be great - Carlo. Who knows?

Are City stronger?

Consistantly they have struggled in games Tevez hasnt played in. He wants to leave and deals are being done to make that happen.

Are Liverpool stronger?

They couldnt even make Europe last season.

Are Spurs stronger?

Biggest player wants to leave - no signings.

Im just giving an honest assesment of the situation and nothing about the above worries me greatly.
 
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