Drug testing at work

I think that as long as companies designed a policy where you will face action and it would go down on a record that you use substances.

But then again most drug users don't give a damn they would probably never work in their life again if companies did random drug tests.

Lots of people take recreational drugs at the weekend and have absolutely no issue holding down a job!
 
The workplace would grind to a halt if everyone taking prescription medication informed their employer.

Which is why you inform them of medication that affects your ability to do do your duties, or those you are legally required to report.

We have a list of medical conditions that must be reported if diagnosed and any employee found to contravene those regulations is liable to disciplinary and in some cases legal action.

Basically if the medication affects your ability to drive/operate machinery or is listed or prescribed for one of the medical conditions proscribed by your licensing terms then you are legally and contractually required to report it to your manager.

There is no debate. It is the law.
 
Almost every one of your posts makes me cringe. Welcome to my ignore list. Wise up brother, wise up.

So add me to your block list you just hate to see opinions. Not my problem neither do I care.

Lots of people take recreational drugs at the weekend and have absolutely no issue holding down a job!

Can you prove this? If I knew who was doing it I would never trust them again.
 
Lots of people take recreational drugs at the weekend and have absolutely no issue holding down a job!


Impossible. If any illegal matter were to enter or effect your body you would instantly become permanently cabbaged and undesirable. There's no scientific evidence to support this, but it is a fact.

I feel bad for the people that are just walking down the street and happen to catch a whiff of smoke from a joint. Innocent dog walkers, business folk collecting a newspaper, instantly reduced to the stakes of a bum. For why?, why dear god.. Why..
 
Ours castiel is as easy as manager logging onto a website and typing drug name in and hitting print. It takes seconds. You then follow any restrictions, which for most jobs/drugs is nothing. You carry this print off, while you are on the drug.
 
DVDs and designer clothes are priced so outrageously high that there is profit to be made. id argue that even the 'real' items are made by slave labour anyway but thats another argument.

Indeed, in some cases they are. Doesn't make it right though.

don't you think drugs would be more comparable to alcohol/cigs ? both cheap to produce , both with big tax incomes , both not very profitable for gangs to make money bootlegging with.

They could end up much the same as tobacco and alcohol are currently, but there are plenty of people out there producing and selling tobacco and alcohol illegally, I don't see why that would change.

Don't get me wrong, the more sensible pro legalisation comments in this thread do have some merits, at least in theory. But knowing what I know, and having seen the things I have, I don't for a second think it would work in the real world. And fortunately, those responsible for law making in this country agree with me.
 
So add me to your block list you just hate to see opinions. Not my problem neither do I care.

No, I just hate to see yours. Let's look at one of these opinions..


Can you prove this? If I knew who was doing it I would never trust them again.

See, that's an idiots opinion. I can't put it any other way.
You would permanently distrust a person for smoking a joint at some point in their lives. You must have a really really narrow cross section of people that you can actually involve yourself with.
 
Ours castiel is as easy as manager logging onto a website and typing drug name in and hitting print. It takes seconds. You then follow any restrictions, which for most jobs/drugs is nothing. You carry this print off, while you are on the drug.

You do not have to do that. The prescribing Doctor will tell his patient about restrictions and then it is the legal responsibility of the employee to inform his manager of those restrictions.

In our industry there is a lot of statutory regulations that must be adhered to both by the employer and employee, the ability and competence of the employee to complete his duties remains the employees responsibility. This includes prescription drugs, medical conditions, mental/emotional state, general heath and anything that may compromise the safety of themselves and the public.
 
I don't have a have a problem ish with what drugs people take in there own time but if it's still in their system when they come to work it can lead to the safety of other being jeopardised.

I suppose I'm not really taking about an office environment, I mean jobs like scaffholders etc or working with heavy machinery.
 
No, I just hate to see yours. Let's look at one of these opinions..


See, that's an idiots opinion. I can't put it any other way.
You would permanently distrust a person for smoking a joint at some point in their lives. You must have a really really narrow cross section of people that you can actually involve yourself with.

So go ahead just add me on the block list one extra person for me to see winging from.

Why is it an idiots opinion? So your calling me an idiot are you? So you would let a doctor operate on you, or a dentist for example who from the night before was on E.... thought not.
 
Hampers working performance and potentially endangers lives. Two good reasons from my perspective.


so i have a 2 weeks away from my job and the first week sees me on a lads trip to amsterdam where after a night of clubbing i end up in a cafe smoking 'drugs' . the second week off work sees me back at home doing all the jobs i need to do a round the house , no drugs. not even any after effects of the drugs

2 months later i get 'random' drug tested and fail.

how is this illegal and how is it hampering my performance or endangering lives/safety ?
 
You do not have to do that. The prescribing Doctor will tell his patient about restrictions and then it is the legal responsibility of the employee to inform his manager of those restrictions.

Assuming it's prescribed and what duties need to be restricted. Also much harder with drug mixes. This is a simple solution which works well and removes the need for a manager to know about drugs and the effects.
 
Great idea, obviously anyone who cares about their career will stop, anyone who doesnt isnt really worth having anyway.
 
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