Drug testing at work

To have a database of every available medication is impractical (and without an individuals medical records and being a trained physician pretty useless) and due to the licensing regulations un-necessary for us.
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Just use Epocrates, it's what doctors use all the time :p

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The above is the strongest argument for legalisation - at least you know what you're getting..
 
iDroid84 said:
Your right, it probably wasn't pure MDMA. The thing is whatever it was killed these two people. Two innocent lives.

Now if it was the batch of pills, whoever made these pills may have mixed them with something that killed them or a chemical reaction. This is what making money does since they cut the substance with other chemicals. This alone is a very dangerous problem, especially for the UK.

I just hate illegal drugs in general because of the problem it causes all because the people who want to take them chase a feeling they get from taking it.
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Those bad pills, those bad drugs, your two friends were not forced to take them were they.
 
Rich_L said:
Just use Epocrates, it's what doctors use all the time :p
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And the employees doctors use it to inform their patient who as an employee has a legal responsibility to inform us, his employer.

We have no need to fulfil the statutory and financial obligations of supporting such a software solution.
 
B&W said:
snorting coke, taking E's your a baghead pure and simple mate.
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Davola said:
What a absolutely ridiculous statement.

You also spelt you're wrong.
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To those of us who have never touched drugs in their lives, a "druggie" could be anyone who uses something like E or cocaine, even if it's just at the weekend.

Simple fact is, you're either a user or you're not. Whether you feel in control of your habit is neither here nor there.

Personally I think legalisation could be the way forwards. Let people get addicted and ruin their lives if that's what they choose to do.

Companies with any responsibility for public safety should do screening tho.
 
iDroid84 said:
why on earth would anyone want that to happen just to chase a feeling.
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Why does anyone want to do anything?
The trouble with many staunchly anti-drugs opinions is that they are often created by a close personal loss or impact on family of drug use. (You could say the same thing about race car driving, sky diving and many other things people do to 'chase a feeling' as you put it)

Whilst this experience doesn't make the opinion any less true for those who hold it, it does not make it objective.

Most of our laws regarding drugs are not objective, but are (excluding workplace safety and liability issues) based on morality and perceived decency - look at how many things were legal a hundred years ago, until it was decided that the dire social problems illuminated by drug and alcohol use could be tackled by prohibition, temperance and religion?

It did nothing to remove the social problems, just the masses means of escape from them.

Fact of the matter is the current 'war on drugs' is an abject failure. It would be a far better thing to decriminalise most currently illegal drugs and have the harder drugs proscribed by gp's to those who are genuine addicts, cutting off their need to steal/mug old ladies to feed their habit.
Not to mention it would be a great source of extra government revenue via taxation in these hard times of austerity - I've yet to see a politician baulk at a way to raise some cash, unless it threatens their public profile :D

But in many cases of casual use, what we are really talking about is taking personal responsibility for your actions. I do it every time I choose to have a drink and then not to drive my car. I look at the situation and act accordingly. The same should go for those with jobs that involve issues of safety or liability of safety for others. But of course taking responsibility for your own actions is something that is not reinforced as an attitude these days; it's always someone else's fault or responsibility or blame.
If you want to be recreational in your use of drugs, choose a career that your fun is not going to endanger anyone else, or a career where you are not responsible for the safety of others. That's how I've always looked at it.
 
I remember having my very first one, I had to hang around ages waiting for the need to pee in a cup thing. It was at Bombardier though, and the amount of agency chavy druggy types they had, it's no surprise there was a random drug test in place
 
Castiel said:
Then why would you fail?
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Well lets just say I don't have much faith in the people who would be doing our tests, if we had them, being able to tell the difference between something legit and prescribed and something dodgy ... they don't have a particularly good reputation in the media at the moment ...
 
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