Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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I really do hope they catch the thugs who robbed that poor injured bloke's back pack. It makes me sick each time I see that CCTV footage, I hope the CPS come down hard on them if caught.
 
DJMK4 said:
Yeah this was mentioned on Sky News this morning.

I think it would be a good idea, however what you have to remember though is there are a lot of spectators, so the water cannon would have to be quite accurate in hitting those that are truly rioting and looting/causing damage and not those who just want a snap on the camera.
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Don't spectate then.
 
dirtydog said:
Normal everyday life is like an uneasy truce, that's how I see it. Different races and cultures side by side, we tolerate each other, but it doesn't take much for trouble to kick off. Unhappiness, resentment, hatred, whatever you want to call it, it isn't far beneath the surface.
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Yet you claim not to be racist?

Jesus ****ing Christ.

I have no hidden resentment, hatred or unhappiness towards other races. To do so is racism, not "freedom of speech," and thankfully not everyone has the same ridiculous notion as you.
 
Elixir said:
Yet you claim not to be racist?

Jesus ****ing Christ.

I have no hidden resentment, hatred or unhappiness towards other races. To do so is racism, not "freedom of speech," and thankfully not everyone has the same ridiculous notion as you.
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I am telling you how it is, I don't necessarily like it. You might love blacks but a lot of them don't love you. And when push comes to shove on a dark night, they will see you as the enemy if you are white.
 
scorza said:
NuLabour were right-wing, semi-liberal - they did some good authoritarian stuff like introducing CCTV cameras (again, I note with irony that the people who were all 'omg it's 1984 all over again' while Labour were in power are now happily using footage from those CCTV cameras to identify the looters) but they used them as a replacement for real policing rather than as a complement to.
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Perhaps if they bothered to actually address the social issues at hand, and not throw us headfirst into the recession, then maybe they'd have stopped these riots from happening in the first place.

Your argument is flawed, sir.
 
Ahleckz said:
I respect the escalation, and remember I've probably been one of the most vocal people in this thread saying we SHOULDN'T be using plastic bullet/water cannon/et al. However, the deployment of plastic bullets is a decision that is made by the police; not the government. We shouldn't be muddying the water and suggesting that it was inaction by the government that prevented the deployment of plastic bullet guns. It was the police accepting that it wouldn't be a wise idea that rightly prevented the deployment.
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No, it was a police chief who didn't want to upset the public and appear heavy handed and call everyone in from leave straight away, it was a police chief who didn't want to get blamed if someone got seriously injured from a plastic bullet, it was a police chief who was too afraid to do his job.

Sorry but your argument still holds no weight, at all, shoot someone with a bullet, it hurts, it makes carrying out criminal activity much much harder.

But you're right, we shouldn't end up having people blame the government for decisions the police SHOULD be making, but here's the problem, when they are too afraid to do what needs to be done, they want someone in the government to give the go ahead, so if something goes wrong the press crucifys whoever that is, rather than the guy who should have given the go ahead in the police.

Again, its this stupid blame culture, its not just the police, local government don't want to do anything drastic or new for fear of them getting the blame for anything, our public sector workers have become a bunch of scared little girls unwilling to do anything without direct instructions.
 
dirtydog said:
I hope he loses his job if convicted. We don't need SCUM teaching our kids.
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It's funny, when we point our finger at someone (i.e SCUM teaching our children) some psychologists say it is an unconscious reaction of the mind about things we dislike about our own self as you point one finger at them & 3 at your 'self'.

For the sake of humanity, please don't breed.
 
dirtydog said:
I am telling you how it is, I don't necessarily like it. You might love blacks but a lot of them don't love you. And when push comes to shove on a dark night, they will see you as the enemy if you are white.
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I don't "love blacks," I have no different opinion towards them as I do towards those of any other skin colour. A lot of them don't love me, in the same way in Glasgow a lot of white people don't love me and would quite happily stab me for my phone.

N.B. - In Glasgow, the stabbings and crime are predominantly committed by white people. The cause is the LEVEL OF SOCIETY they are in, not their skin colour. It really worries me that people can't realise this.

That might be "how it is" for you as a racist, but it is not how it is for (I hope) most of us.
 
Dark Sun said:
Ruined his career and future employment prospects over stealing a few hundreds quids worth of stuff. Worth it?
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Yes, part of the problem with our society today is that people don't take responsibility for their own actions. In a society like that, it becomes the role of the state to enforce it if necessary.
 
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