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gazzamcg said:
You could also argue it's this era of gaming due to the limitation of the current next gen lol consoles, rather than blame it on a specific game.

The dev's can only do what the hardware let's them do.
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Well yes, that's another reason the game is like it is. Although the PC is the "lead platform", they aren't going to develop a game which requires years of optimising to then make it work on the consoles.

I have no doubt BF3 would look a lot better and play a lot better if it wasn't for the consoles. I can't wait for the Xbox 3/PS4 personally, both to get a decent console and so that PC developers don't have their hands tied, at least for the 2~ years after they launch.
 
domthecondom said:
.....waiting for beta makes me sad
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I want the beta just to see if it has improved over the alpha. I loaded it up and it was probably one of the biggest disappointments of my entire life.

I was working lots and I let my brother have access to my account (he played BF2 ALL the time) and he barely even touched the alpha. He said it was because it felt laggy but I know it is because he did not like it.

I sound bitter but I really am looking forward to the beta too however my expectation levels are now FAR more realistic.
 
gazzamcg said:
The dev's can only do what the hardware let's them do.
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PC hardware?. With current pc hardware DICE should be able to surpass BF2 in map size and content, but have the corporate collective allowed DICE that freedom of creativity?. The mp demo should be telling. The bf2 demo was cool, the map was large enough for aircraft and pounding the ground was great but i doubt somehow they can re-capture bf2. It looks to be about the same as Bad Company 2 but with less humour where the sp is concerned.

Should be fun though and a game i'll purchase.
 
VortX said:
Well yes, that's another reason the game is like it is. Although the PC is the "lead platform", they aren't going to develop a game which requires years of optimising to then make it work on the consoles.

I have no doubt BF3 would look a lot better and play a lot better if it wasn't for the consoles. I can't wait for the Xbox 3/PS4 personally, both to get a decent console and so that PC developers don't have their hands tied, at least for the 2~ years after they launch.
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I hear what you are saying but it's nothing to do with pushing the limits of graphics. I never loaded BF2 up and thought these graphics are pimp.

It is all about the scale and the game play. Whilst it is made for both PC and console these will always be sacrificed.
 
Kmodo said:
I want the beta just to see if it has improved over the alpha. I loaded it up and it was probably one of the biggest disappointments of my entire life.

I was working lots and I let my brother have access to my account (he played BF2 ALL the time) and he barely even touched the alpha. He said it was because it felt laggy but I know it is because he did not like it.

I sound bitter but I really am looking forward to the beta too however my expectation levels are now FAR more realistic.
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Why was it such a disappointed? I thought the Alpha was amazing, I loved it!
 
Daniel C said:
Of your entire life?? :D
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I am only 24 and most things in my life I have had control over and so if I messed up I normally see it coming and I only have myself the blame. This was completely out of my control and I was not prepared :p

ScarySquirrel said:
Why was it such a disappointed? I thought the Alpha was amazing, I loved it!
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Well it felt quite funnelled and choke pointy and the complete opposite of all the fun tactics and choices of play style in BF2.

If I had never played BF2 and someone gave me that alpha and said hey buddy try out this game it's called "RushBombDie" I would have been more forgiving I think :D
 
Just to be clear I am not saying BF3 sucks and you are lame for thinking it is good.

Just that I am probably in the minority, i.e. people who loved BF2 but thought BC2 was pretty rubbish in comparison (however I never moaned as I knew it was not BF3).

Then I am in the minority even more as I genuinely believed PC was getting a proper sequel to BF2 and consoles were getting the same PC game but with far smaller maps etc.
 
kedge said:
PC hardware?. With current pc hardware DICE should be able to surpass BF2 in map size and content, but have the corporate collective allowed DICE that freedom of creativity?. The mp demo should be telling. The bf2 demo was cool, the map was large enough for aircraft and pounding the ground was great but i doubt somehow they can re-capture bf2. It looks to be about the same as Bad Company 2 but with less humour where the sp is concerned.

Should be fun though and a game i'll purchase.
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If it was pc exclusive then yes, you would have thought it would have been on a larger size scale than what it will be. Especially if it was MP only.

The frostbite 2.0 engine has been designed to run on the consoles.

I'm guessing the only difference regarding the frostbite on the pc will be visual with dx11 support and a better framerate. Have DICE actually commented on what the difference will be with regard to the map size of the pc vs consoles ?

People are being conned about DICE saying the pc is the lead format etc etc ...

Remember, they were not originally even going to include the como rose ...
 
I loved BF2 but much prefered BC2, I recall reading that BF3 was the true successor to BF2 hence why its being developed on the pc then ported to consoles.
 
Indeed, the fact it has to be ported to consoles is what is holding the PC version back. I would have liked them to do what they did with BF2, give PC the full fat game and consoles get the modern combat or whatever the hell it was called version.

I am sure it was probably considered aswell, but there are some clever people who would have worked out they would still get us to buy it if they gave us enough PC specific content to satisfy, while not having to build a whole other game practically for console.

What they have made makes perfect sense, profit wise.
 
Kmodo said:
I hear what you are saying but it's nothing to do with pushing the limits of graphics. I never loaded BF2 up and thought these graphics are pimp.

It is all about the scale and the game play. Whilst it is made for both PC and console these will always be sacrificed.
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That's why I said look AND play. It does have something to do with pushing the graphics, that's indisputable. I also said "play a lot better" in relation to player count/map size/variation etc.

Let's hope the next generation of consoles allow for more varied/larger scale games (Blu-Ray/Digital Media & lots of RAM being the primary focus).
 
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kedge said:
PC hardware?. With current pc hardware DICE should be able to surpass BF2 in map size and content, but have the corporate collective allowed DICE that freedom of creativity?. The mp demo should be telling. The bf2 demo was cool, the map was large enough for aircraft and pounding the ground was great but i doubt somehow they can re-capture bf2. It looks to be about the same as Bad Company 2 but with less humour where the sp is concerned.

Should be fun though and a game i'll purchase.
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I think you're underestimating the load that destructible environments put on a server, especially when you start getting into big maps. It's not all client side. Besides, I think they've got a game that will push your average rig quite hard.
 
For some reason I thought the beta was out on the 16th so I preordered the limited edition today. Waaah. No beta yet. Wanted the le for the refine maps anyway. Any news on when beta is out? Apparently le should get it 2 days early.
 
Im pretty sure i read in a interview somewhere that consoles get the same maps as pc only abit smaller.

I know rush is 24/32 for console and pc but conquest pc maps are much bigger (apparently)
 
the maps and 99 percent will be exactly same but what theyll probably do is just lock a section like other games.

so consoles get like 3 quarters of a pc map this is what i expect to happen

basically imagine playing it on a 79oo gtx low settings and thats how it will look on consoles
 
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