Vile Kids - What do you do?

Offer them a pack of crisps or something from the shop in exchenge for a bit of peace an quiet. It'll only work for a day and they'll be back for more stuff the next day, so give them something else - chocolate for example. Keep repeating this for four or five days until they gain your trust.

I doubt they'll be any better behaved but when they implicitly trust you, take the lids off a couple of Sunny D's and dose them up with super strength laxatives and hand them out, let their parents deal with the aftermath :-)
 
My argument here is do we get the parents involved and get them to teach kids how to behave meaning, the police can come but what can the police actually to these miners.

What my main points I didn't make clear is how can you tackle these sorts of situations as a whole NATIONALLY?
 
Few suggestions.

1. Mass water bomb collection pre done ready to throw at the boogers.

2. Fog horn if you can get one and run at them and blast it at them specially near their head. :p

3. Find a local school find some tough kids and hire em to kick their arses they will do the dirty work for him.

4. Fake shotgun and scare em with it. :p

5. One of them 90s retro water blaster pump action guns and spray em with pee in it instead of water. :p

6. Get someone to stake out the shop or whatever and after they have caused trouble get the guy to follow em and then he can find where they live and either do crap bags on their houses lol or tell the cops their addresses.
 
Gibbs-UK said:
My argument here is do we get the parents involved and get them to teach kids how to behave meaning, the police can come but what can the police actually to these miners.

What my main points I didn't make clear is how can you tackle these sorts of situations as a whole NATIONALLY?
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Stand and bang.
 
Gibbs-UK said:
My argument here is do we get the parents involved and get them to teach kids how to behave meaning, the police can come but what can the police actually to these miners.

What my main points I didn't make clear is how can you tackle these sorts of situations as a whole NATIONALLY?
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nationally??.......

you can't, this needs to be done at the community level especially as each are different with different ethnic backgrounds and demographics. steps have been taken to support this which is why you will have your local police community officers and council officer who will work with each community.

what are you hoping for, a quick fix? short of draconian measures like enlistment then there are already plenty of community projects and rehab programmes in place. if the kids are that bad you have the young offender institutes / prison but the police / CPS will need to build a solid case.

assuming the parents are decent and the kids come from a decent family environment and just hang around with the wrong crowd, you may get a few of them to stop it by a police visit to the parents, but you have to look at the main cause which is going to be the kids piers / family unit / home environment and parenting.

kids need boundaries and develop by learned behaviour. if the parents don’t set any, then the kids will do what they want. if the kids are subject to abuse at home then they are damned if they do / damned if they don’t so they will ultimately do what they want. if the parents are as bad or worse than the kids then the kid’s behaviour is simply normal to them. i hate seeing young 3-5 year olds who swear, fight (not just play fight) etc, then you meet the parents and understand. friends of ours have their kids in a playschool (in a rough area) and they are constantly having to correct the language and actions of their kids as they are learning from the others at the playschool who see it as normal.
 
Gibbs-UK said:
My argument here is do we get the parents involved and get them to teach kids how to behave meaning, the police can come but what can the police actually to these miners.

What my main points I didn't make clear is how can you tackle these sorts of situations as a whole NATIONALLY?
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In most classes do you think the parents with bad behaved kids will care what their kids are doing. Don’t get me wrong they might have the rich kid who hangs with the poor kids to be cool and hard but 95% of them will be toe rags because of their parents inability to bring up their children correctly so speaking to the parents will be fruitless. Police are limited on what they can to be honest.

I have no real advice because the main issue i can see if that if your heavy handed or chase the kids out of the shop or ask them to leave without them getting any real punishment from the police or anyone they will see this as a game and just do it to pass the time. Maybe the best advice is just to stop them coming in point blank as soon as you see them tell them there not welcome.

Its crazy really why cant police shoot children in the head or gas them like in the good old days. That last sentence was a joke btw I meant clip them around the ear so to speak. :D

The pc and health & safety groups I blame given children far to many rights without sense being applied in some areas.
 
They come into the shop and swear at him?

Well just tell him to swear at them back. Adolescent boys are the most insecure group of people around, it's not exactly difficult to push their buttons. Just accuse them of being gay and having no pubic hair.
 
Bar them from his premises. Keep CCTV footage. Take stills from CCTV footage and place them in the window - this may deter them and may let their parents/others in the community know what they are up to.
 
I can completely empathise with the OP in this case, my family run a takeaway and I have had to work for my parents at the weekend since I was 15. When we first started out, we would get kids entering the shop and using it as their hang out, we promptly chased them out as they never ordered anything and would disturb other customers.

This began to get progressively worse and worse, with the kids starting to damage the shop itself with any means – eggs, flour, rocks, fire crackers, waterbombs, on top of the usual racial abuse we had to endure. My dad tried to befriend these kids (13-16) but it only made things worse.

Time and time again, we called the police and they would come, eventually and the kids would run off. Eventually the police put a patrol in the area, which helped a lot but the police have better things to do with their time (in my opinion) than chase kids. Even when they were caught in the act by police, they were continuously let off with a warning and would leave us alone for a few weeks. Once they took it a step too far and “physically assaulted” (was like a shove) a member of staff outside of the shop, someone else stepped in to help out and caught the culprit and he eventually got taken to court and subsequently got a record/fined.

We couldn’t even fight back – We just had to sit there and endure it, all we could do was call the community liaison officers or the non-emergency police number and wait, try to not let it get to us. Customers would usually get involved but it got to the point that if a customer is getting involved – it’s affecting your business. You had to be pretty thick skinned to work there.

Admittedly there were times where it would be raining heavily outside and these kids would come in to buy some food (like a portion of chips) to have shelter from the rain and it would be satisfying to throw them out.

Eventually the first generation of kids grew up and took their grievances elsewhere, then you had to deal with the second generation – like kids who were too young to take part but idolised these older kids, wave upon wave… we just sold up, 10 years on.

We still see all the kids around who made our life difficult, as my brother works as a GP and my mum works as a health visitor, helping young mums tackle teenage pregnancy etc – we have our laughs.
 
Very hard to discus as we all know deep down that there is something wrong with these youngsters and how we had respect for elders and traders (in the good old days).

But as a whole it is getting worse, kids making a misery of someone elses expense.

I think what some had said like the parents are just as bad, how in the world are we going to live like this, meaning we can do with less of that, regardless of what their backgrounds or were they are from.

From what I have seen travelling all over the UK these sorts of behaviour is growing and the recent riots is a testimont to what I am talking about.
 
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