Steve Jobs has died. What effect, if any, will it have on Apple and the tech industry?

I'm certainly not an Apple fan but whether people like it or not, he was a great man and not only accomplished an incredible amount, he/Apple also opened up multiple market area's that perhaps wouldn't have been put on the table until much further down the timeline.


Undoubtedly, there will be many jokes flying around about him now, which although will be funny, I don't think are appropriate for a man of his calibre. He's in a very bespoke list of people (alongside Steve Irwin & Colin McRae) who these "Death jokes" just shouldn't be made about as they're completely inappropriate not only for that person and their achievements, but also to the family of said people who are alive and having to hear these jokes.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Kind of relevant this time though.
Need to agree what apple have done, before you can discuss the future.

But I agree it is annoying most of the time. See my thread about phone hardware in phone section, for a very annoying reply.
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To be honest these threads are always better placed in the Apple subforum, not so everyone can have a big circle jerk about how amazing their iProducts are, but so we can at least have a reasonable discussion without the common GD retard coming in, spouting some uninformed nonsense and then arguing their moronic points to the death.
 
Sorry if it's already been mentioned, but it does have to be pointed out that Jobs left Apple in the mid '80s and didn't return for about 10 years.

He even setup another computer company called Next (in fact the first web server setup at Cern was a Next).

His return lead to a lot of changes. Apple had actually decided to market their technology to other companies and for a while you could buy officially sanctioned Mac clones. With Job's return this was scrapped and Apple then produced the first iMac. Certainly a very quick change of direction.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I want to agree, but i just can't

Apple II being the first home computer? at the time where computers back then you had to tinker and fiddle to get it to work where the Apple II worked out of the box?

I see where you are coming from though.

There did not come up with the Smart Phone (I had a Nokia N95 before that)
They did not come up with the Tablet (They were around years ago as PDA)
They did not come up with the MP3 player.
They did not come up with downloadable music. (Napster beat him to that)


What they did and what Steve Job did was took what was an average consumer product and somehow make it successful and works and somehow make you want one.

I mean other MP3 players works too, I had an iRiver, but what made the iPod better? it's not technically, there are other better sound quality players, there are cheaper players with drag and drop system (preferred by geeks), there are other more technical advance players. What let them down is design and general UI. Where others put function before form, as do a lot of tech companies. Apple seems to put Form before function. Often using yester-years' technology in a new way, their way. i.e. the Click wheel in the iPod. The Touch screen on the iPhone, the trackpad (great gestures).

Also, the little things matter. Things like Apple Express, music around the house, that is amazing, and link that to your phone as a remote as well! Air play, I can play songs from my iPhone at someone else's HiFi through Airplay without plugging in a thing except having their wifi access.

Apple also got into the mindset of more than technical people, it got into the realm of everyday consumer. It basically makes cool appliances for your house that you want.

Also, their slogan "It Just Works". Really clever, and although not 100% true (i.e. you do need some administration on the OS), it does give the consumer that they are buying something that just works. At least on the surface, a lot of it does.

What would the world be without Steve Job though. Technically, not much, the technology would pretty much be the same. But instead of Facetime we use can webcam chat or Skype, but then we are glued to out desks. Instead of iPhone, we would be embracing another Smart phone, we would all be using windows or Linux. But you can't take iTunes away from him, after Napster there was a slight gap, studios had the upper hand after shutting Napster down but they also losing a lot of money in online piracy in digital music (still do). iTunes basically legalised digital downloads and made it easy to download a song that you want. It gives the people who has some money, but lack the technical know how of newsgroup and torrents and more over, want to stay on the legal side of things a way to get digital music in the comfort of your own chair.

You also can't take away from him, is his ability to design technologies to be cool. Computers used to be ugly, and most PC boxes still is ugly, industrial looking, something you stick under the desk. Yes, you can argue there are pretty PC cases but those are few and far between and mostly for self built. The majority are just bad, really bad.

Apple just made tech easier for the masses. It may not seem like much for people in this forum, who are pronominally technical minded, but it is a big draw for the average Joe.
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A great post and I agree mostly.

I have put forwards by opinions in this thread and some people seem to take this as hatting Apple, which is not true.
 
I think its wrong to make out Apple as a mass marketer that just bring tech to the masses. Activision and EA mass market yet their products are often hollow shells. Apple are the opposite in my book, I've only owned an ipod touch and a 3GS but I thoroughly enjoyed them both with their attention to detail on everything.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
To be honest these threads are always better placed in the Apple subforum, not so everyone can have a big circle jerk about how amazing their iProducts are, but so we can at least have a reasonable discussion without the common GD retard coming in, spouting some uninformed nonsense and then arguing their moronic points to the death.
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Naaah Easyrider found the subforum :(. I know I was shocked too :eek:

:D:p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
bloodiedathame said:
Or those who are technically minded but just cannot be arsed spending hours fixing things. ;)
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Indeed, I think this is a key point too.

Not so much fixing things though, but that they just want the phone to be a phone with a few neat features, not trying to directly compete with an actual computer.
 
TBH the main thing he did for all the tech that he brought out was he took a complex device that the majority of the fools out there were like "Oh noes this is too complicated for me to use!" and made it simple enough that said fools could use it shoved it in a fancy case and marketed it like it was the best thing since sliced bread(I reckon this was his greatest skill) tbh it worked like a charm.

edit: damn! beaten to the punch!
 
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That was just posted on reddit.

I can't see future Apple products having that certain something that they once had when Jobs was overseeing their creation and production any more. even though several things will already have been mapped out on paper no doubt. There's a reason Jobs was brought back to Apple after he was sent away.
 
Totally agree, apart from the fool bit.
Many people even on this tech site, don't want a complicated mobile device. Fiddling for many is for a desktop. Mobile devices especially something as important as a phone. Should work and work well.
 
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