Steve Jobs has died. What effect, if any, will it have on Apple and the tech industry?

Robbo said:
Keep posting your 'opinions' then, I doubt anyone is reading them (for more reasons than one). :D



What would you call a football fan then?
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Thats different. u support a local team no matter how good or bad they do. A sport is diferent a product.

Any pweaon who is a fanboy of a product needs there head examined IMO.

You should buy the best product that suits your needs, not buy a product because its made by X. You sound like one of those who will buy any product that has a apple logo on it:rolleyes:
 
What occurred to me earlier was that you either have Jobs as the messiah who was the genius and visionary he is touted as being who saved Apple and all our souls and so the company MUST suffer in some way or another at his passing. Or he was just the guy at the top of a bunch of very clever people who could market a product of the masses very well who after his death will carry on as if nothing has really happened because he was just another cog in the machine.

There can be no doubt about how much Apple as a brand has changed the technological landscape. My question is how big a hand did Jobs specifically have in that. Was he the key to everything they did (as so so many people claim) and so his death must have an impact or was he just the public figurehead of a very successful company who's passing won't really change anything.

I'm not sure he can be hailed as a visionary and the modern Edison if people then say that his passing won't affect Apple.

EDIT: Britboy, as much as I see the funny side of the joke and think its perfectly acceptable to start, the mods probably aren't going to agree.
 
jonneymendoza said:
You should buy the best product that suits your needs, not buy a product because its made by X.
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I agree.

jonneymendoza said:
You sound like one of those who will buy any product that has a apple logo on it:rolleyes:
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You're the one that started throwing the term 'fanboy' around, not me. Says far more about your insecurities than mine.

Needless to say, your baseless assumptions are wrong.
 
I havnt read the entire thread but Christ sake why does every apple thread end up getting trolled by the android crowd? Then apple crowd retaliate and it keeps going on and on. Tbh I'm bloody sick of it
 
jonneymendoza said:
Why are people a fan of anything? serious. what happened to the days of umm. Buy whichever products the best whether its made my apple or a banana?

i was due for an upgrade a few months ago and waited to see what this new iphone will look like and now that i know, i will get something else
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I totally agree with you, I'm a massive apple fan but I opted for the Desire HD over the iPhone just because I liked it more.

I have been an apple fan for a long time, and I'm saddened at the death of Mr Jobs. I sincerely hope he's at rest now, he's earned it.

As for Apple, this could be a new beginning. I quite like it how it is, but changes for the better would be welcome, and my next computer will almost certainly be an apple (when the macbook pro finally gets retired) unless something dramatic happens.
 
Alpherah said:
I haven't read the entire thread but Christ sake why does every apple thread end up getting trolled by the android crowd? Then apple crowd retaliate and it keeps going on and on. Tbh I'm bloody sick of it
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It's just like region threads.

You can have all the religious people (or Apple users) being perfectly content with their chosen way of life, not trying to force it on anyone else, and not shouting from the roof tops about it, just getting on with life... and then you'll have the anti religion crowd (or Android users) come in with "LULZ RELGIONZ/APPLE USERS, HOW CAN YOUZ BE SOO STUPIDZ. STOP TRYING FOR FORCE YOUR STUFFZ ON US. LOL LOL LOL DEY ARE SOO FICK."

These days despite myself being both religious and an Apple user (well for cell-phones and laptops, I'm typing this on my self-built gaming PC!) I don't bother with religion or Apple threads in GD.
 
I think the loss of Steve Jobs will be a massive blow for Apple. His energy and determination contributed to the fantastic devices we see today. I was walking though Waterloo station on my way home tonight listening to my iPod shuffle just knowing Jobs would have had his hands under the bonnet during its development.

And does it matter if it's Andoid or IOS? Live and let live, nobody's forcing anybody to go out and choose one or the other. We could have put all that to one side just for one day.
 
Steve surrounded himself with a team he trusted, a team he spent years grooming.

They probably have product maps for the next 2-3 years, so in effect they just have to go through the motions and keep things from getting out of control. The big test will be when they need to come up with fresh ideas, or for someone to be bold and make decisions that will divide opinion.

Steve was great at explaining his vision. He knew what colour he wanted, how it should look and what it should do, while leaving the engineers to figure out the way to do it. If it didn't meet his exacting standard, he would scrap it altogether.. I'm not convinced Tim Cook is this way inclined, but perhaps it's going to become a team management system, over the dictatorship.

I have owned Apple stock since 2001, but the next few years will be a real tester.
 
The arguments about iOS and Android are amusing. If only more people realised that Win8 on tablets is going to pull the rug from underneath both of them :p

Stop-gap operating systems are stop-gap operating systems. At some point, the hardware becomes powerful enough, and consumer demand strong enough, that nothing less than a full operating system will do.
 
Always sad when someone passes but it is more sad that people buy into a brand so much that it results in more attention for him than the countless people who give themselves their whole life go unmentioned.

GG Steve you clearly knew your branding and marketing.
 
NathanE said:
The arguments about iOS and Android are amusing. If only more people realised that Win8 on tablets is going to pull the rug from underneath both of them :p

Stop-gap operating systems are stop-gap operating systems. At some point, the hardware becomes powerful enough, and consumer demand strong enough, that nothing less than a full operating system will do.
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If they don't see the light in time they'll will miss the last train to salvation. When the Win8 express gathers steam there will be no stopping it. ;)
 
Todge said:
What occurred to me earlier was that you either have Jobs as the messiah who was the genius and visionary he is touted as being who saved Apple and all our souls and so the company MUST suffer in some way or another at his passing. Or he was just the guy at the top of a bunch of very clever people who could market a product of the masses very well who after his death will carry on as if nothing has really happened because he was just another cog in the machine.

There can be no doubt about how much Apple as a brand has changed the technological landscape. My question is how big a hand did Jobs specifically have in that. Was he the key to everything they did (as so so many people claim) and so his death must have an impact or was he just the public figurehead of a very successful company who's passing won't really change anything.

I'm not sure he can be hailed as a visionary and the modern Edison if people then say that his passing won't affect Apple.

EDIT: Britboy, as much as I see the funny side of the joke and think its perfectly acceptable to start, the mods probably aren't going to agree.
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Have a look at how well Apple did after he was ousted in '85 and their performance post '96 when he came back to Apple. Hes pretty much instrumental in being where they are today (even existing as a company), but thats not saying he built and designed the iDevices himself from the ground up - just got that team together and gave them focus...

It will affect Apple, but its not like they havent had several years to deal with this - as someone else said they are far more likely to become a company run by commitee, I dont think thats going to be a good thing...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Robbo said:
So you're here to wind people up then, that's pretty obvious from those two posts and your post in the other thread.

I wouldn't bother if I were you.
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The first was a reply to a comment which you didn't bat an eyelid about so why can't he bother, are you the defender of the faith?
 
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