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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The A75 and Hudson D1 have both native USB3.0 and SATA3.0 capability. I think on the SB850 and SB950 you only get native SATA3.0 ports but loads of them,but USB3.0 is handled by an NEC controller IIRC.
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Indeed.
SB 850 gives more native SATA III than I get.

SB950 is just a rebrand of SB850 isn't it?
And 990FX is just a rebrand with SLI of 890FX.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The A75 and Hudson D1 have both native USB3.0 and SATA3.0 capability. I think on the SB850 and SB950 you only get native SATA3.0 ports but loads of them,but USB3.0 is handled by an NEC controller IIRC.
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mine is ASMedia

tbh theres a larg % of people are not bother if they native supported or not
 
Martini1991 said:
Indeed.
SB 850 gives more native SATA III than I get.

SB950 is just a rebrand of SB850 isn't it?
And 990FX is just a rebrand with SLI of 890FX.
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The SB950 and SB850 look more or less the same but I don't know for certain if it has tweaks or not.

ATM,all the performance mATX AMD AM3+ motherboards use 800 series chipsets which is annoying. Supposedly,the 900 series motherboards have an improved VRM section.

stulid said:
ASUS
ECS
GIGABYTE

Have all confirmed 3.0 for the H61 and H67 boards.

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/
http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/pcie3/pcie3.html

Anything without switches that has the full 16X going to the top slot gets the Full Fat Milk
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I just had a look on the Gigabyte website and it seems my motherboard is on it. I was thinking of a Core i7 upgrade but it looks like I am holding off until Ivy Bridge just for the hopefully improved power consumption.

gareth170 said:
mine is ASMedia

tbh theres a larg % of people are not bother if they native supported or not
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Yep. As long as it does the job is what is important. A couple of my mates have got 970 motherboards and they are quite nice for the price which is around £80. The newer Athlon II X3 CPUs see to be not bad for overclocking too. My mate got to 4GHZ on one which was £50 to £55.
 
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modez said:
@Martini1991
So what is the conclusion in this thread with reference to AMD?
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That Martin hates them for having to sell his CHIV? :p

OMG - Stop spamming my phone with all this chipset/motherboard poopookaka and get back on track - BD........ ;)
 
Sin_Chase said:
EXACTLY :rolleyes:

He is in a minority because he has STUPID requirements. His stupid requirements make an AMD board with 'extra' features value compared to the same Intel board with the same connectivity options.

The point is that other people who have sensible requirements or have sensible solutions never need to buy an Intel board that costs twice as much because they do not need what it offers. The fact you can buy an AMD board for the same price as an Intel board with that expanded feature set you do not need is a totally moot point.

You realise you are talking about a guy who wants to run 8 individual disks for data redundancy (So needs that many SATA ports) and has never heard of a USB hub so wants to run a stupid amount of USB devices natively from the board instead?
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I gave you reasons for the SATA ports and why i don't use USB hubs because of compatibility issues with some devices, i went through 3 different USB hubs.

So don't say i never heard, its just that you forgot.

AS far as STUPID requirements, then that's your opinion based on your lessor needs, there are plenty of home users who use more than me with 12-16 disk RAIDs.
 
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Final8y said:
there are plenty of home users who use more than me with 12-16 disk RAIDs.
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No, there are not.

12-16 disk RAID is not a home user requirement nor supported widely in home user kit.

12-16 disk RAID is not even enthusiast level, it's probably past Small Business also. Those running that many disks in a RAID array should be using proper kit for it. Hint - that's not 16 disks off a motherboard. Dedicated server or NAS is suitable for such a setup.
 
Sin_Chase said:
No, there are not.

12-16 disk RAID is not a home user requirement nor supported widely in home user kit.

12-16 disk RAID is not even enthusiast level, it's probably past Small Business also. Those running that many disks in a RAID array should be using proper kit for it. Hint - that's not 16 disks off a motherboard.
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They are using proper kits and my point is that there are some home users using more disks than me, yes its not the norm but it does happen.
If i need to expand then i will need to go proper kit too.
 
Final8y said:
They are using proper kits and my point is that there are some home users using more disks than me.
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The point is not how many they are using and on what.

It's that the majority of people do not need the silly amounts of connectivity you do and supposedly get value for. They buy appropriate kit for their use. Those who need 16 disk RAID arrays buy appropriate kit (IE Real RAID cards and enclosures, not consumer motherboards with 50 SATA ports)
 
Sin_Chase said:
The point is not how many they are using and on what.

It's that the majority of people do not need the silly amounts of connectivity you do and supposedly get value for. They buy appropriate kit for their use. Those who need 16 disk RAID arrays buy appropriate kit (IE Real RAID cards and enclosures, not consumer motherboards with 50 SATA ports)
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I didn't say that or even implied any of what you have just said.

A motherboard with more connectivity at the same price is intrinsically/inherently better value in regards to the motherboard itself.
What someone needs is not always based on value, so the better value product well be inappropriate.
 
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modez said:
@Martini1991
So what is the conclusion in this thread with reference to AMD?
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?.
They made me sell the best board I ever had with their inability to create a CPU to rival Intel clock for clock.

I agree native USB 3.0 support isn't important at all. SATA III has, however AMD's got that nailed.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Here are some pictures of the retail FX8120 packaging:

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/791495-bulldozer-blog-live-788.html#post15236518

It looks the tins will be standard with the 8000 series FX processors and they will use what looks like the same stock 125W Phenom II X4 and X6 air coolers.
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I think they might be limited.

stulid said:
No water cooler? - http://wccftech.com/amds-water-cooling-kit-fxbulldozer-processors-exposed/
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That's only for a bundle or something, it's not standard.

Final8y said:
I didn't say that or even implied any of what you have just said.

A motherboard with more connectivity at the same price is intrinsically/inherently better value in regards to the motherboard itself.
What someone needs is not always based on value, so the better value product well be inappropriate.
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It's only better valued if the owner uses it, if it doesn't, it's just there, doing nothing, giving nothing back for the money.
 
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At least the CPU section of Trinity has an IPC improvement over Llano. Supposedly under Linux,it looks like a 2.5GHZ Piledriver based CPU is faster than a 2.9GHZ Husky based CPU.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
At least teh CPU section of Trinity has an IPC improvement over Llano. Supposedly under Linux,it looks like a 2.5GHZ Piledriver based CPU is faster than a 2.9GHZ Husky based CPU.
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Linux? You mean LinX?
Linpacks aren't really anyway to gauge performance.
Although, Trinity = Pile driver, so should be faster than Llano in the CPU section anyways.

Although this BD thing is interesting, that new platform due 2012 was touted 10% faster, 10% faster than current results is still slower clock for clock than X58 CPU's.
 
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