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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

Martini1991 said:
And all you've done is give links to what I've said.....
Not all boards use switches for crossfire, they use the lanes direct from CPU the 16/4 ones for example.
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So will ALL socket 1155 motherboards support PCI-E 3.0 in single card setups or not?? There seems to be no mention of the H61 or H67 chipset(I have a motherboard with the latter chipset). It would be nice if Intel could clarify thus too but I suspect they will not comment until the launch of Ivy Bridge.

If this is the case it will be good news.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So will ALL socket 1155 motherboards support PCI-E 3.0 in single card setups or not?? There seems to be no mention of the H61 or H67 chipset(I have a motherboard with the latter chipset). It would be nice if Intel could clarify thus too but I suspect they will not comment until the launch of Ivy Bridge.

If this is the case it will be good news.
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Well, all chipsets are compatible with Ivy.
It depends on whether all 1155 boards get support for Ivy.

I'll revise my statement to ; All boards using Ivy on 1155 should have support for PCI-E 3.0, simply because, the primary lane is via CPU.

Sin_Chase said:
Is it required on a H chipset?

Those running cutting edge PCI-E 3.0 cards will likely be on a P/X chipset for unlocked overclocking ability.
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Even if it's not required, it's nice.
You can build a cheap H61 i5 system for gaming and have PCI-E 3.0 Support with Ivy.
 
Sin_Chase said:
Is it required on a H chipset?

Those running cutting edge PCI-E 3.0 cards will likely be on a P/X chipset for unlocked overclocking ability.
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I have an SFF gaming build with an HD5850 1GB ATM so I want to know.

TBH,not everyone overclocks and even any of the Core i5 or Core i7 processors at stock clockspeeds will be fine with a high end card. I also tend to be more interested in overclocking low end processors. The Athlon II X3 is a great processor in that regard.

Having said that I was running the HD5850 1GB on a PCI-E 8X generation one slot before and there was not a big difference in performance. I maybe fretting over something which is not really that important!:p

Martini1991 said:
Well, all chipsets are compatible with Ivy.
It depends on whether all 1155 boards get support for Ivy.

I'll revise my statement to ; All boards using Ivy on 1155 should have support for PCI-E 3.0, simply because, the primary lane is via CPU.
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It does not help that Intel has mentioned socket compatability only ATM. Hopefully Gigabyte will not fail me!!:p
 
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To get back on topic..

Not long now untill the truth is known, going to miss the wild speculation and arguing for arguments sake. Not.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So will ALL socket 1155 motherboards support PCI-E 3.0 in single card setups or not?? There seems to be no mention of the H61 or H67 chipset(I have a motherboard with the latter chipset). It would be nice if Intel could clarify thus too but I suspect they will not comment until the launch of Ivy Bridge.
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ASUS
ECS
GIGABYTE

Have all confirmed 3.0 for the H61 and H67 boards.

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/
http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/pcie3/pcie3.html

Anything without switches that has the full 16X going to the top slot gets the Full Fat Milk
 
The A75 and Hudson D1 have both native USB3.0 and SATA3.0 capability. I think on the SB850 and SB950 you only get native SATA3.0 ports but loads of them,but USB3.0 is handled by an NEC controller IIRC.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The A75 and Hudson D1 have both native USB3.0 and SATA3.0 capability. I think on the SB850 and SB950 you only get native SATA3.0 ports but loads of them,but USB3.0 is handled by an NEC controller IIRC.
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Indeed.
SB 850 gives more native SATA III than I get.

SB950 is just a rebrand of SB850 isn't it?
And 990FX is just a rebrand with SLI of 890FX.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The A75 and Hudson D1 have both native USB3.0 and SATA3.0 capability. I think on the SB850 and SB950 you only get native SATA3.0 ports but loads of them,but USB3.0 is handled by an NEC controller IIRC.
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mine is ASMedia

tbh theres a larg % of people are not bother if they native supported or not
 
Martini1991 said:
Indeed.
SB 850 gives more native SATA III than I get.

SB950 is just a rebrand of SB850 isn't it?
And 990FX is just a rebrand with SLI of 890FX.
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The SB950 and SB850 look more or less the same but I don't know for certain if it has tweaks or not.

ATM,all the performance mATX AMD AM3+ motherboards use 800 series chipsets which is annoying. Supposedly,the 900 series motherboards have an improved VRM section.

stulid said:
ASUS
ECS
GIGABYTE

Have all confirmed 3.0 for the H61 and H67 boards.

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/
http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/pcie3/pcie3.html

Anything without switches that has the full 16X going to the top slot gets the Full Fat Milk
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I just had a look on the Gigabyte website and it seems my motherboard is on it. I was thinking of a Core i7 upgrade but it looks like I am holding off until Ivy Bridge just for the hopefully improved power consumption.

gareth170 said:
mine is ASMedia

tbh theres a larg % of people are not bother if they native supported or not
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Yep. As long as it does the job is what is important. A couple of my mates have got 970 motherboards and they are quite nice for the price which is around £80. The newer Athlon II X3 CPUs see to be not bad for overclocking too. My mate got to 4GHZ on one which was £50 to £55.
 
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modez said:
@Martini1991
So what is the conclusion in this thread with reference to AMD?
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That Martin hates them for having to sell his CHIV? :p

OMG - Stop spamming my phone with all this chipset/motherboard poopookaka and get back on track - BD........ ;)
 
Sin_Chase said:
EXACTLY :rolleyes:

He is in a minority because he has STUPID requirements. His stupid requirements make an AMD board with 'extra' features value compared to the same Intel board with the same connectivity options.

The point is that other people who have sensible requirements or have sensible solutions never need to buy an Intel board that costs twice as much because they do not need what it offers. The fact you can buy an AMD board for the same price as an Intel board with that expanded feature set you do not need is a totally moot point.

You realise you are talking about a guy who wants to run 8 individual disks for data redundancy (So needs that many SATA ports) and has never heard of a USB hub so wants to run a stupid amount of USB devices natively from the board instead?
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I gave you reasons for the SATA ports and why i don't use USB hubs because of compatibility issues with some devices, i went through 3 different USB hubs.

So don't say i never heard, its just that you forgot.

AS far as STUPID requirements, then that's your opinion based on your lessor needs, there are plenty of home users who use more than me with 12-16 disk RAIDs.
 
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Final8y said:
there are plenty of home users who use more than me with 12-16 disk RAIDs.
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No, there are not.

12-16 disk RAID is not a home user requirement nor supported widely in home user kit.

12-16 disk RAID is not even enthusiast level, it's probably past Small Business also. Those running that many disks in a RAID array should be using proper kit for it. Hint - that's not 16 disks off a motherboard. Dedicated server or NAS is suitable for such a setup.
 
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