Steve Jobs vowed on the demise of android!
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How do you know what he has decided to do with his fortune (which is hugely less than Gates earned!), show me evidence he hasn't and isn't going to donate some/all of his fortune?
Show me that Google, Microsoft, Samsung and god knows who else DON'T use China to build they devices & computers.
Oh snap son, you can't.
Yup, I hate their company that much:
- don't like the prices they sell their items at
- don't like the way they take ideas that have been around for ages and reintroduce them as brand new and that they thought of them first and every one believes them
- don't like how closed they are for there software side
- don't like the majority of owners who are snobbish, or just plain stupid thinking that the iphone/imac what ever, is the best thing on earth and nothing is better than it, and especially the way they try and justify the cost of there products despite the fact you can get much better products/components for a lot cheaper "oh but it has aluminium casing and feels like a premium device that is why it is so much more expensive"
- don't like steve jobs
- just don't like their software in general at all
And a lot of other things.......
That pretty much sums up why I don't like apple as A company, nothing to do with the products at all really.
And the good points that I have stated about iphone in the past compared to android is:
- better market
- more polished better apps
- a lot more and better games
On the contrary you haven't proved in favor of it either.
There are different type of fanboy but that doesn't change my view that you are very biased towards android.
I use a nexus one and really like android but that doesn't stop me looking at both devices and software impartially. I find it very hard to take someones views seriously when they appear very one sided.
Apple and Steve Jobs are / were no saints but I can't see how you can think that they were any worse than any other company.
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Indeed - there is certainly a relative comparison between market penetration and cost of handsets but I think a more telling statistic is perhaps now that there are a range of iPhone handsets available and at varying prices why they don't sell more of the 3GSs?
Apple consumers seem to have a real thing about not buying hardware if it's not the latest device but with the price point that these come onto the market at they're effectively cutting themselves off at the knees from a pure statical point of view. Having said that there is still an air of quality with the latest iPhones that I think most Android devices struggle to generate.
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I agree - In my own mind I tend to write such knee jerk comments off, it's just a shame that they dilute actual reasoned discussion.
People will copy your ideas... you'll copy their's.
Unless you're a small developer and making little money while big guys steal all your ideas and make billions... Move on and create something new
I have little sympathy for an apple vs android dispute.
Unless you're a small developer and making little money while big guys steal all your ideas and make billions... Move on and create something new
I have little sympathy for an apple vs android dispute.
If that is the way that you and others see it then fair enough, I honestly really don't care
As I said if I love something then of course I am going to praise it and come across like that, same goes for many other people as well and other products, not just mobiles.
And the reason I only ever post about android is cause I have no interest in any other mobile OS as android is what suits me best.
As for the companies well that is kind of a completely different story and I have explained in my last post why it is that I don't like apple (not the products) and many people agree with those points.
Why are there sooooooo many **** takes in the form of pics and videos (that pretty much cover all the things that I mentioned) of apples methods but yet for other companies there are virtually none?
The fact is Steve Jobs is dead and Android isnt!
Android is fighting fit and healthy in the latest icecream sarnie. Steve jobs on the other hand.......
Need i say more?
I think in the end Steve was just peeved that 2 geeks could amass so much wealth and make it onto Forbes top 10richest in a few years and overtake him BIGTIME interms of wealth (worse so when Google doesnt actually make anything)!
Android is fighting fit and healthy in the latest icecream sarnie. Steve jobs on the other hand.......
Need i say more?
I think in the end Steve was just peeved that 2 geeks could amass so much wealth and make it onto Forbes top 10richest in a few years and overtake him BIGTIME interms of wealth (worse so when Google doesnt actually make anything)!
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Yep - something logical for a start... still trying to figure this one out...
Seems a little petty...Nexus18 said:
That is called marketing, you don't need a car that goes 150mph, you don't need a holiday every year, you don't need nice tasty food. You buy it because its something you want. Apple do tend to do things in a better way than previously implemented when they "revolutionise" a feature. I don't agree with the marketing spiel but very few people I know have bought into it as you suggest.Nexus18 said:
A simple choice on their part that has allowed them to create a software and hardware ecosystem that gives the average customer a better experience.Nexus18 said:
People have to justify expensive purchases to themselves. Ask someone who has a car that does more than go from A to B and they will explain why the car was "worth it". Yet again apple build software and hardware. The hardware is lovely but the OS makes it great. Any any rate, its just as tiresome listening to android fanboys gush about their processor speed and how android is better than iOS because its "open".Nexus18 said:
Sure there is a very good reason for that....Nexus18 said:
Seems like a bit of a trend here. If you don't like something, its bad. I much prefer iOS and OSX to windows but I don't dislike windows as a result. You can just appreciate 2 things without having to put them in the good / bad piles.Nexus18 said:
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Erm that's rubbish. Why don't you take the Windows mobile phones (e.g. XDAs) which had near full bezel touchscreens and then claim iPhone copied?
It annoys me so much that people think the iPhone was the shining white knight of numerous "innovations", many of which were on phones >10 years ago...
I have always say it and will say it again. Apple are the best marketing firm in the world. They could sell a toaster for £999 to millions. Are the best technology firm in the world? Not sure, there is hardly anything ground breaking hardware wise, the only Apple devices of recent which I have enjoyed owning was the original iPod and my iPad which I love. Everything else, meh.
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It is logical.
- Steve vowed for Android's demise.
- Steve Jobs dead.
- Android market share grows.
- The end.
Can you figure that out?
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No Steve died of cancer, iOS is still going strong and still sells a ridiculous number of handsets. Apple is still the number one brand in the world and as a brand is worth more than any other. I'm not seeing a failure anywhere.
He has up to $6.6 billion in stock, $2.2b of Apple Stock and he wife 'founded College Track, a program that pairs disadvantaged students with mentors who help them earn college degrees.' so it is expected she will oversee his fortune around education.
But that doesn't matter, because he was an evil dictator etc. and should be frowned upon because he hasn't publicly declared what donations he's made. Damn, what a ****!
As you say, its a tricky one for apple as they are running with very much a "one iOS to rule them all" policy so those on a 3g wont get iOS 5 and those on the 3gs will have a sub optimal experience.
Im not sure that apple customers have a reluctance to buy old handsets, they are just human and like all of us, they want the latest features and speed.
Androids method of releasing a handset every few weeks allows even the lower specced phones to be reasonably up to date but the simple matter is that all those handsets are on an old OS that will never see updates unless it was a flagship phone in its heyday or its a huge manufacturer.
The payoff for apples marketing machine is that googles lack of advertising allows them to operate under a lower profile. Lots of people with android will know all about the versions, updating and features but I would think the vast majority would just say they ran "android". What version? "android".
Apple makes a big deal about the new OS, its at the same time every year, masses of speculation coupled with a new handset which inevitably will allow something the previous one cannot do with the same version of iOS.
A budget android phone could be 6 months old with an ok screen size, android 2.2 / 2.1 and there wouldn't be that much difference from the higher spec phones. You go for the bottom of the range iPhone and you are on 2 year old hardware.
@fez
I have been over this discussion many time before, just read that thread that the post with reasons as to why I don't like apple links to as I really cba typing all this again and then state what you think/what to say to me
Just been over it a hundred times now.
Although for the prices, I don't think you can say "little petty".
Take the iphone 4 and GS 2 from somewhere beginning with P:
iphone 4 16GB- £440
Galaxy S 2 - £420
You can probably get the devices somewhere else for a good bit cheaper especially the GS 2
Now compare the hardware and how old the devices are? You are telling me that the iphone 4 is perfectly fine at that price?
And then take the 4s, it is no better than the GS 2 overall except the GPU really, battery life and the camera and video recording are pretty much equal, same for the screen in some ways as well.
And the contract prices are even worst!
I have been over this discussion many time before
, just read that thread that the post with reasons as to why I don't like apple links to as I really cba typing all this again and then state what you think/what to say to me Just been over it a hundred times now.
Although for the prices, I don't think you can say "little petty".
Take the iphone 4 and GS 2 from somewhere beginning with P:
iphone 4 16GB- £440
Galaxy S 2 - £420
You can probably get the devices somewhere else for a good bit cheaper especially the GS 2
Now compare the hardware and how old the devices are? You are telling me that the iphone 4 is perfectly fine at that price?
And then take the 4s, it is no better than the GS 2 overall except the GPU really, battery life and the camera and video recording are pretty much equal, same for the screen in some ways as well.
And the contract prices are even worst!
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