Not allowed speaking another language break the Human Rights?

Tombo said:
Yeah because you have to speak with capital letters.
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He is talking about correct English? Capital letters are an important part of English, when used at the start of a sentence, proper nouns, and other relevant usage. Therefore, he is correct.

Personally I hate the standard of decline in English usage in this country. The amount of times I see stupid text speak even on supposedly literate forums like this one almost beggars belief. If English is not your first language, or if you suffer from dyslexia, then fair enough. But in other cases it just seems so lazy.

On topic, I would presume to be expected to learn a language if I was to work in a country that uses said language as its primary, and also I understand that there are some languages with a higher international significance. So being expected to speak English (an internationally important language in any case) in an English workplace is fair enough.

Oh and by the way, I'm not some old phogey complaining (loads of my friends on Facebook have a go at me for correcting their spelling :D), I'm only 19 3)
 
Shayper said:
He is talking about correct English? Capital letters are an important part of English, when used at the start of a sentence, proper nouns, and other relevant usage. Therefore, he is correct.
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Yes but aknor isn't talking about written English. So no.
 
Tombo said:
Yes but aknor isn't talking about written English. So no.
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Yes, however he is commenting on arknor's use of written English, which would lead to aspersions as to the quality of his spoken English.

Gah that probably doesn't make sense. Basically he is suggesting that because arknor is not using written English correctly he is not in a position to criticise another's use of English. Again, something that I agree with.
 
arknor said:
why would you want to speak anything other than english at a company in england?

its distracting enough when some randomers are yelling on a mobile phone in the street and all you hear is abauga naihjaihaia drihfihif hiihhidhid..

nevermind when your trying to work and your brain is hearing sounds it cant explain!
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If what is being said is relevant to work, fine. But if it's a private conversation, who cares? Ever seen English ex-pats working abroad? They mostly speak English, most of the time, amongst themselves, and only switch to the native language when natives are present - if then. And that's amongst fluent speakers of the native language: non-fluent speakers are even worse. It's perfectly natural behaviour. Not being able to speak the native language is one thing (another ex-pat favourite), but choosing to speak your own language to fellow natives is normal.


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go to google maps.. and type in your postcode.. now which island are you on? UK at a guess.. so yeah the native language here is ENGLISH speak it and don't worry about others not understanding you.. its their choice to not learn it when they come to live in uk.. i know of people who live here for 6years+ and can't even go to a shoe shop to ask for correct size ffs!
 
I cannot see why, if it doesn't have an impact on business, it should be banned.

This is all just down to basic fear of "evil foreigners are talking behind my back", "they are saying something they shouldn't" ... grow up. Go learn another couple of languages, properly, enrich yourself.

At least someone is working hard on this country, 50% of the natives have no idea what a day of hard work means. They are keeping the place afloat, I wouldn't **** them off.
 
DragonWoLf said:
So where I work there are people of many cultures (me being one) and recently there was a notice on the walls saying soon everyone must talk in English, so no Polish, Hindi, French. So I was wondering is this infringing on our Human Rights at all before I make some hell at work?
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The work place may be able to enforce English as a standard for communication between colleagues at work time. But for that matter they could also enforce French or German or Hindi or Klingon. This would be to make sure everyone is communicating on the same language.

If you deal with other customers or other colleagues/companies who speak English then it may be a requirement to speak English.

It is certainly not allowed to make a blanket rule that covers everything. So at lunch time you are perfectly entitled to speak whatever language you want, and it should be encouraged. I love listening and trying to take part in chit-chat in foreign languages.
 
doofer said:
If you want to speak Polish, Hindi or French in work, go to ****ing Poland, India or France to work. Simple. This is the UK, we speak English, Welsh and Gaelic here. If you don't like it **** OFF! Sick and tired of all the Political Correctness bull****. :mad:
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Why should someone be forced to speak English in the UK? It is great to have the opportunity to converse with other people in different languages without having to go to other countries.

What an ignorant attitude.:rolleyes:
 
Meridian said:
If what is being said is relevant to work, fine. But if it's a private conversation, who cares? Ever seen English ex-pats working abroad? They mostly speak English, most of the time, amongst themselves, and only switch to the native language when natives are present - if then. And that's amongst fluent speakers of the native language: non-fluent speakers are even worse. It's perfectly natural behaviour. Not being able to speak the native language is one thing (another ex-pat favourite), but choosing to speak your own language to fellow natives is normal.


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Indeed, considering the linguistic abilities of the British population about the worst in the western world it is hilarious all this nonsense about forcing people to speak a foreign language 24-7.

The fact of the matter is people will always use their native language by choice, however good their foreign language abilities are. I have dozens of friends who speak better English than 80-90% of British people bu they will still revert to their native French/Italian/German/Spanish whenever possible.
 
As above have mentioned... You're written English seems fine mate, why issues speaking it?

from what I gather a lot of places do this simply for the fact if someone is gesturing at you or another member of staff speaking a foreign language, how/what are people meant to gleam from that? Someone standing in the middle of the office calling someone under the sun every name they can think of? Giving praise? Talking **** ?

If its praise praise in english? If its ****/abuse/grief then quite simply dont do it in the work place? Would certainly end with action being taken by the employer if it was done in english.

Why should other languages be any different?
 
Shayper said:
Yes, however he is commenting on arknor's use of written English, which would lead to aspersions as to the quality of his spoken English.

Gah that probably doesn't make sense. Basically he is suggesting that because arknor is not using written English correctly he is not in a position to criticise another's use of English. Again, something that I agree with.
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I really wish arknor would put 20 seconds per post more effort into what he says. Given most of his mosts are quite serious opinion on quite serious in depth issues the fact he cannot be bothered to type properly often undermines whatever he has to say. It's really quite difficult to take comment on the use of language seriously from somebody who refuses to use capital letters. 20 seconds a post arnkor and your posting style would be far more appopriate for the sort of debates you enjoy taking part in on the forums.
 
While you are at work you speak English, I don't see how you can even have the slightest problem with that, if you work in England speak English.

I have a couple of Pole mates at work and they always speak English, even to their wives/girlfriends if we are with a client or in a house. If there is no one else around then the speak polish between them selves etc... Or try and teach me, badly.
They say they do it out of respect, and if a foreigner spoke their home language in Poland whilst working they recon that the person would not have a job.
 
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