Some people think it's pefectly legal to run lights on a bike.

LeJosh said:
And that - somehow - permits you to intentionally get in their way? :rolleyes:
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Ahh, but i am not getting in their way. Just not opening the door for them to squeeze past! If they want to overtake they can go round the correct way!!
 
I cycle 50 miles a week as my commute to work and it's extremely rare that I'll jump a red light.

I'd say I was extremely considerate as a cyclist and go out of my way to be as unobtrusive as possible to motorists, but I do see instances of cyclists being selfish or inconsiderate.

These are what I'd say are the main annoyances.

1. Cyclists taking too much of the road. - I tow the yellow lines and take up hardly any space, but see too many tools wavering a thirdway across the road riding at 5mph holding up traffic.

2. Cyclists going too slow. I average 15 mph when commuting - if there's no space to pass me you won't have to slow down too much or wait too long to do so.

3. Racer cyclists riding along side by side chatting. I've seen this during rush hour times, taking up half the road, maybe averaging 18 mph but totally blocking the 30mph traffic.

3. Cyclists riding along in pitch darkness without lights. Far, far too many people do this, it's an utterly crazy thing to do.

But on the positive side, most cyclists I see are in good physical shape and are unlikely to be burdening the NHS with obesity related diseases.

Motorists on the other hand - the amount of fat, single occupants of vehicles, smoking fags whilst pootling along making the 5 minute drive to the supermarket that they could easily walk. Well let's just say we'll likely all be paying for their irresponsible laziness in years to come.

There is also the fact that when commuting 90% of people are the sole occupants of sometimes very large vehicles - there is an environmental impact too that can't be denied.


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I ride on the road sometimes and when im in my car and some **** it in the middle of the road when there's a cycle lane to the left it really winds me up, I beeped at the last one I saw.
 
Manchester as in the OP's example gets all sorts of crazy cycling goings on, red light jumping is a given, especially if there are people crossing, then there's my 2nd favourite the riding in the cycle lane on the wrong side of the road for the direction you're travelling in (I mean on road cycling lanes) my current favourite though is people doing wheelies. I swear I'd barely seen anyone do a wheely for 15 years who wasn't on a bmx/trials bike or on a motorbike pulling away from lights, yet in the past couple of months I must have seen 50 people, not kids, riding either on their own or with a group pulling wheelies, on open roads, in traffic.

I am a cyclist, motorist and pedestrian on the same routes so see all sides of the coin, but aside from taking to the pavement on bike (usually just if I'm about to cross the road, and always at pedestrian speed if there's anyone nearby), I obey the laws for the method of transport.
 
yhack said:
It's a waste of energy if I stop for lights and nobody is there. Go cycling through a town for a month and see how hard it is to bother stopping after a while.
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Its the same for HGV's it takes soo much energy and effort to slow them things down then to stop and then to start again. Maybe they shouldn't bother with the law as its too much effort.
 
Wolfe777 said:
I cycle 50 miles a week as my commute to work and it's extremely rare that I'll jump a red light.

I'd say I was extremely considerate as a cyclist and go out of my way to be as unobtrusive as possible to motorists, but I do see instances of cyclists being selfish or inconsiderate.

These are what I'd say are the main annoyances.

1. Cyclists taking too much of the road. - I tow the yellow lines and take up hardly any space, but see too many tools wavering a thirdway across the road riding at 5mph holding up traffic.

2. Cyclists going too slow. I average 15 mph when commuting - if there's no space to pass me you won't have to slow down too much or wait too long to do so.

3. Racer cyclists riding along side by side chatting. I've seen this during rush hour times, taking up half the road, maybe averaging 18 mph but totally blocking the 30mph traffic.

3. Cyclists riding along in pitch darkness without lights. Far, far too many people do this, it's an utterly crazy thing to do.

But on the positive side, most cyclists I see are in good physical shape and are unlikely to be burdening the NHS with obesity related diseases.

Motorists on the other hand - the amount of fat, single occupants of vehicles, smoking fags whilst pootling along making the 5 minute drive to the supermarket that they could easily walk. Well let's just say we'll likely all be paying for their irresponsible laziness in years to come.

There is also the fact that when commuting 90% of people are the sole occupants of sometimes very large vehicles - there is an environmental impact too that can't be denied.


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I would also like to add to this that the roads would be a much better place if there were less cars and more cyclists particularly in city centres.
Cycling and walking should be a human right, driving a motor vehicle is a privilege.
 
When I am running over Millenium bridge in the morning and there is a cyclist still astride his machine I play chicken and go head on while muttering about ******* cyclists on the pavement and can't they read signs.
 
Jay794 said:
I thought riding side by side was against the law?

Also I remember hearing that flashing lights on a bike are illegal, I thought it had to be constantly on? can someone confirm?
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And as usual, a motorist who doesn't have a clue about the highway code.
 
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