6970 vs 570

coupe69 · 6 Nov 2011 at 19:54

tommybhoy said:
Absolute nonsense!

Indeed your post is absolute nonsense as when I do the same search I get completely different results. Is my google broken?

Not too bad considering the latest Steam hardware survey shows that there is almost double the amount of Nvidia users compared to ATi/AMD

Gerard · 6 Nov 2011 at 20:02

Some of you need to stop dry humping the gpu vendors and buy whatever suits your needs at the time. "Loyalty" to a paticular company is ultimately retarded, especially when it comes to pc hardware. The driver debate is also ages old with some people reading off the same script they were handed 10 years back somehow thinking its still relevant, some people will have issues, others won't, thats pc gaming folks.

robin66 · 6 Nov 2011 at 20:43

coupe69 said:
Indeed your post is absolute nonsense as when I do the same search I get completely different results. Is my google broken?

Not too bad considering the latest Steam hardware survey shows that there is almost double the amount of Nvidia users compared to ATi/AMD

Thank you.

LtMatt · 6 Nov 2011 at 20:54

Go for a 6950 and unlock and overclock it if you can. Otherwise get a 6970.

KNiVES · 6 Nov 2011 at 21:12

I'm a crossfire user and I still believe Nvidia does far superior drivers. I've used AMD/Nvidia equally over the years (based on value not loyalty) and I've typically had more issues with ATi/AMD.

cammy5477 · 6 Nov 2011 at 21:31

sell a kidney and get a 6990 with the ek nickel en water block

i have and now the stitchs are out and i can play bf3 with uber frame rates
evrythings coming up millhouse

tommybhoy · 6 Nov 2011 at 22:24

coupe69 said:
Indeed your post is absolute nonsense as when I do the same search I get completely different results. Is my google broken?

That was at work the other day, I'm getting this now:

coupe69 said:
Not too bad considering the latest Steam hardware survey shows that there is almost double the amount of Nvidia users compared to ATi/AMD

Just like it's still not reporting CrossFire systems?

Hardly conclusive data since they have known about it for ages now!

Gerard said:
"Loyalty" to a paticular company is ultimately retarded, especially when it comes to pc hardware. The driver debate is also ages old with some people reading off the same script they were handed 10 years back somehow thinking its still relevant, some people will have issues, others won't, thats pc gaming folks.

Exactly what I'm talking about, it's pathetic how almost every thread with Ati in it has the old 'drivers are terrible' comment in it.

So roff mate, as I pointed out to you the other day in the sli thread, you discussed why one Nvidia card you owned had problems and then done the usual but Ati... when you didn't even use any of them!

coupe69 · 6 Nov 2011 at 23:53

tommybhoy said:
Just like it's still not reporting CrossFire systems?

Hardly conclusive data since they have known about it for ages now!

Christ you won't let it lie will you, you're certainly clutching at straws now! So you're telling me the crossfire users make up how many percentage points? Another what 30%? LOL I'd be very surprised if it was any more than a 2% gain.

tommybhoy said:
Exactly what I'm talking about, it's pathetic how almost every thread with Ati in it has the old 'drivers are terrible' comment in it.

The problem is there appears to be at least as many posts if not arguably more concerning issues with ATi drivers as opposed to Nvidia drivers. When you consider (as I've highlighted above) that Nvidia cards outweigh ATi cards almost 2:1 you've gotta admit it doesn't look great? I mean you only have to look at posts like KNiVES who's a current ATi user:

KNiVES said:
I'm a crossfire user and I still believe Nvidia does far superior drivers. I've used AMD/Nvidia equally over the years (based on value not loyalty) and I've typically had more issues with ATi/AMD.

Obviously ATi/AMD do some cracking cards for the money and I'm looking forward to their new high end hardware. The problem is there can be far too much arsing around getting the damn things to work properly! I mean you get one game working great but the cap version you've just installed messes another game up. ATi drivers are fine if you only play one game at a time and/or you don't mind messing around installing/uninstalling different preview drivers and caps. For someone who just wants to play games with the least amount of hassle (ie me) Nvidias drivers are a breeze in comparison, it's usually just a case of install driver - job done.....

JeffyB · 7 Nov 2011 at 00:44

The op didn't ask for a mass slating of each vendors drivers, both of which seem to have issues for a handful of people and are not representative of the majority of users.

You already have xfired 5850's why are you looking to change your setup?

coupe69 · 7 Nov 2011 at 00:52

JeffyB said:
You already have xfired 5850's why are you looking to change your setup?

Goates said:
Should have probably said that this isn't advice for me but for my brother. Happy with my 5850's atm.

JeffyB · 7 Nov 2011 at 00:57

I'd save some money and get a 6950, performance gains on the 570 and 6970 are not worth it.

tommybhoy · 7 Nov 2011 at 01:17

coupe69 said:
I mean you only have to look at posts like KNiVES who's a current ATi user

Take a look at ~REALiTY's post, he's using Nvidia.

You used KNIVES opinion who like me is an ATI user, the difference being is my view doesn't suit you!

There are others in this thread that have the same view as me.

Having owned 10+ Nvidia cards including using Sli, and 3 Amd cards(4870 5870 and 6950's), my experiences with Amd have not been any better or worse than when I used Nvidia cards.

I read for years about the 'driver issues' and if I kept on listening I stupidly would never have tried Amd!

I'm NOT saying Amd's drivers are better, but this all just shows some of the shallow mindsets of some in here.

Rroff · 7 Nov 2011 at 01:17

tommybhoy said:
So roff mate, as I pointed out to you the other day in the sli thread, you discussed why one Nvidia card you owned had problems and then done the usual but Ati... when you didn't even use any of them!

Assumptions are dangerous. just because I don't own a setup personally doesn't mean I don't have extensive experience of it.

tommybhoy · 7 Nov 2011 at 01:34

Rroff said:
Assumptions are dangerous.

In what context have I to read into that comment?

coupe69 · 7 Nov 2011 at 01:46

tommybhoy said:
Snip.

I think we'll leave it there mate, you conveniently seem to miss out most of the important points I made and address only the ones that appease you.

tommybhoy · 7 Nov 2011 at 01:54

coupe69 said:
I think we'll leave it there mate, you conveniently seem to miss out most of the important points I made and address only the ones that appease you.

That's fine, it's been happening both ways though mate, I'm not alone there

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robin66 · 7 Nov 2011 at 08:40

Goates said:
As for a 6950 or 560 he has it in his budget to go a little higher than these and with more demanding games such as BF3 now out i though he may aswell go a little higher.

If we have the money I think a lot of us like to go that little bit extra if we can. So if the money is no issue get either the 570 or 6970 then Goates.

And I kind of wish I haven't mentioned my personal choice of cards based on which drivers I prefer in this thread, with all of the debating about it.

Just to add: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-112-MS

LtMatt · 7 Nov 2011 at 10:34

9 out of 10 ati users have larger genitals according to a recent youguv poll.

JeffyB · 7 Nov 2011 at 12:53

Msi 570 on today only for under £240 looks a decent price.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-112-MS

LtMatt · 7 Nov 2011 at 12:59

JeffyB said:
Msi 570 on today only for under £240 looks a decent price.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-112-MS

Good deal.

I'd rather have more vram though for future proofing.