Incapcity Benefit, I'm on it.

I'm on IB indefinitely for this.

People keep on asking 'Lol, how does that stop you from working?' or something similar.

Because I was a complete failure at working when I had a job and couldnt ever manage full time employment again with the symptoms I have, and these guys told me I should definitely be on benefits for it (as did my doctors and health assessors), as well as making all my phonecalls to the jobcentre for me and making sure I got put on IB.

But haterz gonna hate. I get a whopping £6000 per year, like woot, I'm such a drain on the economy :rolleyes:
 
I'm on IB indefinitely for this.

People keep on asking 'Lol, how does that stop you from working?' or something similar.

Because I was a complete failure at working when I had a job and couldnt ever manage full time employment again with the symptoms I have, and these guys told me I should definitely be on benefits for it (as did my doctors and health assessors), as well as making all my phonecalls to the jobcentre for me and making sure I got put on IB.

But haterz gonna hate. I get a whopping £6000 per year, like woot, I'm such a drain on the economy :rolleyes:



My wifes Step-Father has Menieres Disease, he is a psychiatrist and while it doesn't affect his ability to work he does say the unpredictability of the condition can be inconvienient.

You must have a very severe case for it to stop you working altogether though, is it bilateral?
 
You must have a very severe case for it to stop you working altogether though, is it bilateral?

Yes.

In more detail I only had it in my left ear from around the age of 14. I barely noticed it and I only had vertigo attacks around once in a whole year at first.

By the time I got to uni, the hearing loss in my left ear had become very noticable and moderate so I went to get it checked. They couldnt diagnose anything wrong as everything looked healthy and I had no idea about any other symptoms or what vertigo was at the time.

Also at this point I began getting 'indescribable (vertigo) attacks', the same as what I had experienced in my teens around every 1-2 months. They pretty much felt like I was going to collapse and die, I couldnt walk and felt like I had severe flu / fever symptoms and I had to go to bed. They normally lasted around 8 hours during which I would cursing / swearing in my head telling myself 'I need to go see a doctor, I need to go see a doctor etc etc etc'.

The following mornings I'd wake up and be completely fine, and think, oh that was actually nothing? Hmmm, I wonder what it was, most likely a migraine or something'.

This kept on going on for several years (about 4 or 5) while I was very active at uni and with a part time job and lots of extra curricular stuff. Everytime it happened I would have to go to bed, or if I was anywhere else call a sicky for this 'thing that I had no idea how to describe or what it was'.

In my final year of uni (and also work), my right ear began losing hearing very suddenly and sharply around March / April. After completing the year at uni I got a 36 hour contract for my basic supermarket job, the plan being to carry on working there while applying for better jobs.

Over the summer, I went from having the 'indescribable attacks feeling like death and doom' from monthly to weekly. At times I even had them several times per week. My absence rate skyrocketed, and a few times I was calling into work saying 'I'm too dizzy to even walk down the stairs or leave the house and walk to work'.

Following that I had a disciplinary interview, in which I was given my final warning (no more absences for 3 months or sacked), and during this one of the managers mentioned that if I was having dizzyness problems, this could be due to this ... that .... or the EARS. My brain was like 'OMG you herp derp, You should have known that'.

I didnt really manage to go long without having another (now know to me from a little research) vertigo attack, and called up to my job and told them that since I was on my final warning, I wouldnt bother going back. I called up the parents and asked to move back home.

I found out that I had Meniere's Disease from my own research and proceeded with seeing doctors and getting NHS appointments, but it took me two more years and 3 hospitals to actually get it diagnosed, but the Jobcentre put me on the lowest rate for IB from 6 months after I had left work, and 2 health assessments later I was on the highest rate permanently (or so it should be until I'm 65).

Several years after that, I had permanent balance loss / dizzyness / lightheadedness / cognitive dysfunction and cant walk or even sit anywhere outside or in busy buildings with lots of sound without getting vertigo attacks. Traveling in any automobile (car or bus) makes me feel extremely faint / passing out sensation, and upon leaving the vehicle, I get a rather splendid 'Bouncy ball / ricocheting vertigo where I feel like I'm being constantly pushed forwards and backwards. I also get occasional migraine associated vertigo attacks now that can last anywhere from 3-5 days, but with how many I keep on getting I've pretty much learned to just /ignore them and stay sat in my chair during the day, but I cant go outside.

The last time I left the house to go to A+E for my lung infection, I was pretty much sat in the waiting room feeling like I was constantly spinning, and very lethargic and fatigued as I am if i even try to do some shopping at the supermarket or sit at a bus stop (not a very common occurrence anymore, but I used to have to go from Bradford to Leeds General Infirmary which was the place that managed to finally diagnose me in my first appointment from my past medical info).

Also almost everytime I cough or sneeze, I get sharp shocks of vertigo like my head is being clobbered with a giant hammer and my eyes shake and vision goes blurry (vestibular nystagmus). But all my brain scans show that theres nothing wrong, and everysingle physical test shows that my body is physically 100% healthy (meaning I cant get DLA). The only detectable things are the hearing loss in both ears, and complete failure at balance tests.
 
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international comparisons show we either have a massive problem with ill health and disability (especially among the young), or a massively flawed current system that allows too many people to scrape themselves into state dependency rather than contributing.

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/24/young-british-claim-disability-benefits

it is vital that we provide support for those who need it without villifying them, hence why objective, independent assessment of ability to work must be a vital part of the process moving forward.

for the avoidance of doubt, supporting the principle does not imply support for the current work capability assessment run by atos.
 
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Shocking chart above is the best thing for depressed people to sit at home all day? Fat people should be given the daily job of walking to the benefits office in the next town that would fix them in a few months
 
that graph makes my blood boil

DEPRESSION!!, yeah we can all get depressed about life... maybe there are the odd few with some crazy chemical inbalance, but for most moping about muttering woe is me should never get you free money from those who actually get off there backsides and work for a living.

Last week I worked 68hrs, a short week which I'm thankful of, but at least I have the money in my pocket from it which I know I earnt

If op is really 'stressing' about the test, then I'd question if you have the rights to be claiming it.... surely those who really need help will be self evident in any test, no sweat

Sorry if I come across strong on this, I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way yet won't post due to being PC... Op's mental health problems doesn't seem to effect forum posting, which is surely the last thing on anyones mind who has genuine problems.

Just my 1p


edit: op also has a very expensive PC rig in siggy, like how did you afford that ? (I think I know the answer to that)
 
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I'm on IB indefinitely for this.

People keep on asking 'Lol, how does that stop you from working?' or something similar.

Because I was a complete failure at working when I had a job and couldnt ever manage full time employment again with the symptoms I have, and these guys told me I should definitely be on benefits for it (as did my doctors and health assessors), as well as making all my phonecalls to the jobcentre for me and making sure I got put on IB.

But haterz gonna hate. I get a whopping £6000 per year, like woot, I'm such a drain on the economy :rolleyes:


When you get switched to ESA you will be declared fit for work.
which you will either be set to basiclly claim jsa or placed in the group where you will have to attend meetings every few months in your local job center.

I have gone through the process myself it is a complete joke.

Atos are awful most of there staff which are claimed to be health providers is rubbish the first person I saw was more like a receptionist who spent more time typing on the computer then listing to me describe my mental and physical function problems.

I don't even know how the system can claim them as medical assessment they don't run any basic tests on you it's more like a chat then stupid things like can you push against my hand sort of thing not even simple thing like checking your weight or blood pressure.
 
that graph makes my blood boil

DEPRESSION!!, yeah we can all get depressed about life... maybe there are the odd few with some crazy chemical inbalance, but for most moping about muttering woe is me should never get you free money from those who actually get off there backsides and work for a living.

Last week I worked 68hrs, a short week which I'm thankful of, but at least I have the money in my pocket from it which I know I earnt

If op is really 'stressing' about the test, then I'd question if you have the rights to be claiming it.... surely those who really need help will be self evident in any test, no sweat

Sorry if I come across strong on this, I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way yet won't post due to being PC... Op's mental health problems doesn't seem to effect forum posting, which is surely the last thing on anyones mind who has genuine problems.

Just my 1p


edit: op also has a very expensive PC rig in siggy, like how did you afford that ? (I think I know the answer to that)

Depression (genuine, not 'oh I feel a bit bad today' 'depression') is a terrible thing to experience. My mum has been out of work for ~3 years, and at the beginning to say she was in a bad state was being kind. She has been supported with benefits throughout that time, albeit with not very much money. She's pretty much out the other side now, and is trying hard to get back into work. Please don't belittle depression as an ailment, it's affected my life one way or another pretty much since I was born and I can honestly say I'd have been in a better situation not having been born some of the time (not been depressed myself, but have had to live with the effects of it for much of my life).

My mother-in-law is also suffereing, and she's like a total zombie a lot of the time. That's even harder to see than my own mum, as before she was a pretty outgoing and confident person. She doesn't claim any benefits though.
 
I think there's a lot more problems at the top end that need sorted (tax avoidance by the rich), rather than spending so much money worrying about who's dishonestly receiving a relatively small amount.

Like others in the thread, I was denied incapacity benefits despite being unable to work - I couldn't leave the sofa for weeks at a time due to severe pain from Crohn's disease. The reason was that the questionnaire asks how you perform at your best and I answered honestly. The odd day (a couple a month) I was relatively fine and, although I was physically exhausted, I could still do what it asked of me on my best days.

Luckily now the Crohn's is in remission. I have enteropathic arthritis and Meniere's instead but both very much under control *Touch wood* :D

It was an absolute nightmare though. My mum had to support me until I was well enough to work again and pay her back. I should make it clear though that the likelihood of Crohn's going away is quite rare and I'm lucky to be able to work again, so I feel terrible for anyone who doesn't recover in the way I did. The guilt is unreal.
 
If op is really 'stressing' about the test, then I'd question if you have the rights to be claiming it.... surely those who really need help will be self evident in any test, no sweat

You've looked into this one in depth haven't you.

I think there's a lot more problems at the top end that need sorted (tax avoidance by the rich), rather than spending so much money worrying about who's dishonestly receiving a relatively small amount.

Well there is a problem here the current system is quite poor and is letting people through who can game the system whilst at the same time penalising people with genuine problems who are honest and/or have certain problems. but you are correct the people who moan in here are strangely absent on the debates on the morality of what the rich get up to.
 
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that graph makes my blood boil

DEPRESSION!!, yeah we can all get depressed about life... maybe there are the odd few with some crazy chemical inbalance, but for most moping about muttering woe is me should never get you free money from those who actually get off there backsides and work for a living.

As I said before... I'm a high functioning sufferer of a type of depression. It sucks more than you can imagine, and I'm happy for you that you are unable to imagine it.
 
that graph makes my blood boil

DEPRESSION!!, yeah we can all get depressed about life... maybe there are the odd few with some crazy chemical inbalance, but for most moping about muttering woe is me should never get you free money from those who actually get off there backsides and work for a living.

Last week I worked 68hrs, a short week which I'm thankful of, but at least I have the money in my pocket from it which I know I earnt

If op is really 'stressing' about the test, then I'd question if you have the rights to be claiming it.... surely those who really need help will be self evident in any test, no sweat

Sorry if I come across strong on this, I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way yet won't post due to being PC... Op's mental health problems doesn't seem to effect forum posting, which is surely the last thing on anyones mind who has genuine problems.

Just my 1p


edit: op also has a very expensive PC rig in siggy, like how did you afford that ? (I think I know the answer to that)

You make my blood boil. Depression is a curse that I wouldn't wish on anyone, and it's people like you that help keep it stigmatised to the level it is today.
 
that graph makes my blood boil

DEPRESSION!!, yeah we can all get depressed about life... maybe there are the odd few with some crazy chemical inbalance, but for most moping about muttering woe is me should never get you free money from those who actually get off there backsides and work for a living.

Last week I worked 68hrs, a short week which I'm thankful of, but at least I have the money in my pocket from it which I know I earnt

If op is really 'stressing' about the test, then I'd question if you have the rights to be claiming it.... surely those who really need help will be self evident in any test, no sweat

Sorry if I come across strong on this, I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way yet won't post due to being PC... Op's mental health problems doesn't seem to effect forum posting, which is surely the last thing on anyones mind who has genuine problems.

Just my 1p


edit: op also has a very expensive PC rig in siggy, like how did you afford that ? (I think I know the answer to that)

Wow.. just wow....

Not only have you just dismissed the same figures you seem to deride (the figures that have been collected by *experts* in those fields) but then go on to basically imply that anyone with depression shouldn't engage in a normal life (which includes posting on forums and building PCs).

"I'm sure more people feel like this"... and I'm sure more people don't feel like that.
 
I have just been awarded ESA for my ulcerative colitis. Being recently med discharged from the forces I have had all the support from the Veterans agency and British legion. But in all honesty claiming was easy. I just phoned up and the lady did the forms online, a week later I had a letter saying I would get £105 a week. I have a medical with my doctor today and I need to get a sicknote to send to the ESA people.
I have never claimed any type of benefit before but was advised by the veterans agency to claim as I'm unable to work.
Although the ESA will help its deffinately a shock to the system going from my forces wage to just over £400 a month especially with 3 kids.
 
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