**The Official Samsung Galaxy S II Thread*

Kreeeee · 10 Dec 2011 at 21:22

I thought that ics had a hardware accelerated browser.

Mekrel · 10 Dec 2011 at 23:36

Kreeeee said:
I thought that ics had a hardware accelerated browser.

It doesn't have a hardware accelerated Browser, but instead; Google have changed how the browser renders the page.

Dianne Hackborn said:
When people have historically compared web browser scrolling between Android and iOS, most of the differences they are seeing are not due to hardware accelerated drawing. Originally Android went a different route for its web page rendering and made different compromises: the web page is turned in to a display list, which is continually rendered to the screen, instead of using tiles. This has the benefit that scrolling and zooming never have artifacts of tiles that haven’t yet been drawn. Its downside is that as the graphics on the web page get more complicated to draw the frame rate goes down. As of Android 3.0, the browser now uses tiles, so it can maintain a consistent frame rate as you scroll or zoom, with the negative of having artifacts when newly needed tiles can’t be rendered quickly enough. The tiles themselves are rendered in software, which I believe is the case for iOS as well. (And this tile-based approach could be used prior to 3.0 without hardware accelerated drawing; as mentioned previously, the Nexus S CPU can easily draw the tiles to the window at 60fps.)

Now, as described above by Dianna Hackborn (Google software engineer) and as I've experienced on the Galaxy Nexus; the browser rendering is very smooth on ICS.

The Galaxy SII rendering method is also smooth but has drawbacks, such as non-dithered images at 16 bit colour. This is why the over scroll glow with the 2.3.5 ROMs looks really poor in the browser. I also experienced the "chequerboard" effect on the Galaxy SII which is weird; as it goes against what Dianne said above. Unless Samsung changed the browser to use tiles also.

Freddie1980 · 11 Dec 2011 at 00:15

I dropped my T-Mobile Android G1 on the concrete earlier this and it's been playing and so today I went and got it replaced with Galaxy S II. I should have done some more research but I was desperate for a replacement, the girl and Carphone Warehouse told me this phone is the best on the market. Judging by the size of this thread I'm guessing she's not far wrong?

mrk · 11 Dec 2011 at 00:16

In short, yes.

Caseh · 11 Dec 2011 at 00:25

Freddie1980 said:
I dropped my T-Mobile Android G1 on the concrete earlier this and it's been playing and so today I went and got it replaced with Galaxy S II. I should have done some more research but I was desperate for a replacement, the girl and Carphone Warehouse told me this phone is the best on the market. Judging by the size of this thread I'm guessing she's not far wrong?

I wouldn't say it's the best, but it's equal best IMO (Gnex and S2, depending on what you are wanting).

Aedus · 11 Dec 2011 at 10:58

I swear I am having the worst luck with phones. The first had a problem with the screen, and the 3rd has nothing wrong with the screen, but this:

WARNING, TURN DOWN VOLUME OF VIDEO.

Anyone got a clue what the hell is wrong with this 1?

Thebug · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:12

Aedus said:
I swear I am having the worst luck with phones. The first had a problem with the screen, and the 3rd has nothing wrong with the screen, but this:

Anyone got a clue what the hell is wrong with this 1?

Prob nothing as mine does the same, why would you need to mess with that anyway?

Aedus · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:14

Thebug said:
Prob nothing as mine does the same, why would you need to mess with that anyway?

I was doing the tests to see if there was any problems with it, and that was something none of the previous phones did. Just confused what the hell it is and if there is a problem with it or not.

Thebug · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:16

Aedus said:
I was doing the tests to see if there was any problems with it, and that was something none of the previous phones did. Just confused what the hell it is and if there is a problem with it or not.

Well mine does exactly the same, And its had god knows how many firmwares flashed to it, could be firmware related.

mrk · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:18

I don't see a problem?

Thebug · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:21

mrk said:
I don't see a problem?

Think its to do with the noise as its a screen test

Aedus · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:25

I'll upload the noise that the other phone makes, 1 sec.

Here:

The first makes a really loud noise when the test starts, the other makes no sound at all. Do you think it's nothing worth worrying about?

james.miller · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:27

Thebug said:
Think its to do with the noise as its a screen test

it's not just a screen test. that's why it's called "receiver (white)", just like the vibration test is called "vibration(black)". It tests a receiver but i couldn't tell you which one or in what capacity.

I would suggest not messing around in test menu and dev apps unless you know what those tests are supposed to be doing.

PixelChef · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:33

I might have a problem with my phone and hoping someone can offer some advice. Everyone who I've called so far say that there is an echo (I think their voice echos) but it sounds fine to me.

I was thinking it could be caused by the network, the signal seems fine most of the time but the internet is often too slow to use. Could it be caused by my network? Or do you think it's a fault with the phone itself?

The network I'm with is GiffGaff, so effectively O2. I bought the phone off ebay, it was not listed as faulty.

Any ideas?

Aedus · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:36

james.miller said:
it's not just a screen test. that's why it's called "receiver (white)", just like the vibration test is called "vibration(black)". It tests a receiver but i couldn't tell you which one or in what capacity.

I would suggest not messing around in test menu and dev apps unless you know what those tests are supposed to be doing.

I generally don't mess about with this stuff, but I was just testing to see if all was well and this in particular stood out as something really strange compared to the others I had received. The other ones have the audio heard in the 2nd video, this 1 has a really high pitched noise at the start. I thought it could be a problem with the speakers etc, because when I do the tests between the 2 phones with headphones plugged in, they sound exactly the same.

james.miller · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:37

Aedus said:
The first makes a really loud noise when the test starts, the other makes no sound at all. Do you think it's nothing worth worrying about?

no.

btw do you have audible selection disabled? (settings >> sound >> Audible selection). because mine makes a loud sound with it enabled and not when it's disabled. Either way you shouldn't need to be in there messing. Stop worrying about it, your phone is fine

oL said:
I might have a problem with my phone and hoping someone can offer some advice. Everyone who I've called so far say that there is an echo (I think their voice echos) but it sounds fine to me.

I was thinking it could be caused by the network, the signal seems fine most of the time but the internet is often too slow to use. Could it be caused by my network? Or do you think it's a fault with the phone itself?

The network I'm with is GiffGaff, so effectively O2. I bought the phone off ebay, it was not listed as faulty.

Any ideas?

I've seen problems with echoing before, probably in this thread. I cant remember what the cause was of if there was a fix however. The sgs2 has two mics doesnt it? check if one's blocked maybe. Try toggling the noise cancelling(when in a call) and see if that improves it as well. other than that, I don't know.

Aedus · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:48

james.miller said:
no.

btw do you have audible selection disabled? (settings >> sound >> Audible selection). because mine makes a loud sound with it enabled and not when it's disabled. Either way you shouldn't need to be in there messing. Stop worrying about it, your phone is fine

Tried disabling it, same thing.

benjo · 11 Dec 2011 at 11:54

oL said:
stuff

Could be modem related? What version are you using?

PixelChef · 11 Dec 2011 at 12:17

james.miller said:
I've seen problems with echoing before, probably in this thread. I cant remember what the cause was of if there was a fix however. The sgs2 has two mics doesnt it? check if one's blocked maybe. Try toggling the noise cancelling(when in a call) and see if that improves it as well. other than that, I don't know.

ok thanks I will try toggling noise cancelling. Not sure if it has 2 mics, I did try recording my voice and playing it back, it sounded fine.

benjo said:
Could be modem related? What version are you using?

KL1 at the moment but I think same was happening with KI3.

DIABLO · 11 Dec 2011 at 12:34

oL said:
ok thanks I will try toggling noise cancelling. Not sure if it has 2 mics, I did try recording my voice and playing it back, it sounded fine.

KL1 at the moment but I think same was happening with KI3.

In the Network Settings the network is set to 'Auto Mode' right? As you should see 3G at least when you're traveling around sometimes.

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