This thread is about Reddit actively trading irrefutable child porn.

No, I do not and intentionally trying to muddy the waters as you have done - most of your posts seem to be postulations without any background or subject relation - doesn't further discussion in any way at all.

Read the post again. Go to the SA link and follow the actual links which I removed so it could be discussed here (I think some still work).

Just so we're clear, no one is screaming 'child porn' about pictures of 17 year olds in bikinis or posting their FB pictures when fully dressed. That is not what this is about and to suggest so is terribly misleading.

e : to remind you of the admin/pornographers cosy relationships :

/r/jailbait is shut down now, but the traffic statistics [http://i.imgur.com/jvNpg.png] posted by Violentacrez [http://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfRedd...for_rjailbait/] from its heydays are interesting. The dip in mid August is when admins temporarily closed the subreddit, and the spike on September 30th is when Anderson Cooper talked about it. The numbers after the temporary shut down are abnormally low, as would be expected. But prior to that, they were getting about 30,000 unique visitors each day.

When r/jailbait was open, it had a message on the sidebar asking young girls to submit pics to their jailbait gone wild subreddit, which still exists, and even wants these 'jailbait' girls to get verified before submitting photos. You're also told to "Be respectful. Don't insult the ones brave enough to submit photos / videos".

The owners of reddit know there is active trading of child porn on their forums, and refuse to do anything about it. Further, Reddit's cofounder simply dismisses the issue and blames the exploited children whose pictures are being traded: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZYvrue1BE]

The inaction of reddit's administrators has been a frequent topic, part of that being Violentacrez's shockingly close relationship with them.
Violentacrez's Twitter account [https://twitter.com/#!/violentacrez] seems like a good example of this.
Krispykrackers [http://twitter.com/krispykrackers] (head of advertising and the community helpline at reddit)
Hueypriest https://twitter.com/#!/hueypriest] (reddit's general manager) and
Chromakode [https://twitter.com/#!/chromakode] (developer) all follow violentacrez.
So does Jedberg [https://twitter.com/#!/jedberg] (former administrator),
KeyserSosa [https://twitter.com/#!/KeyserSosa] (former lead developer) and
MikeSchiraldi [https://twitter.com/#!/MikeSchiraldiraldi] (another former developer type).

If you view their past tweets, you'll see that Violentacrez has regularly been in direct, public contact with them.
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It seemed to me at the time that SA were judge running a grudge/smeer out of boredom. I've certainly seen worse things pop up on their boards.

The trouble is it's obviously a grey area, because morals are subjective. You've got two relatively compelling sides to an argument.

1. Whilst it doesn't allow anything illegal, it does enable people to engage in those activities with relative ease.
2. Censorship is a big deal, and where do you draw the line? If no laws are being broken, can you, when in a position of power, stop something just because you don't like it?

I agree with the decision to remove the subreddits, and would like to see active enforcement from now on. I think, when it comes to children, you cant have a grey area, and a line needs to be drawn before people have even thought of any arguments for it. I also believe, however, that SA were jumping on a hate-campaign when there are also other well known boards that engage in activities equally as dubious.

Tough times.
 
Ascendancy said:
A lot of people here are apparently confusing child pornography (which was never allowed on Reddit) and pictures of 17 year old girls in bikinis, which were allowed until recently.
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While you are apparently confusing pictures of 17 year old girls in bikinis (which were until recently allowed on Reddit) and pictures of 10 year old girls in bikinis, which were also allowed until recently. That's not to mention the rape fandom subreddits that are still allowed there.
 
JeditOjanen said:
While you are apparently confusing pictures of 17 year old girls in bikinis (which were until recently allowed on Reddit) and pictures of 10 year old girls in bikinis, which were also allowed until recently. That's not to mention the rape fandom subreddits that are still allowed there.
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Indeed, and we are not talking "here is a picture of my 10 year old daughter learning to swim!" family style photos, we are talking 10 year olds posing in underwear and comments like "oh damn I would like to have sex with her"
 
DampCat said:
It seemed to me at the time that SA were judge running a grudge/smeer out of boredom. I've certainly seen worse things pop up on their boards.

I also believe, however, that SA were jumping on a hate-campaign when there are also other well known boards that engage in activities equally as dubious.
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Reddit is now one of the mos visited websites on the internet, it is attracting main stream media attention like never before as well as AAA* celebrities and academics. Whilst other sites may be doing the same thing, Reddit should be held to a higher standard now it has such success and it took an SA campaign to do it. Some people don't like SA because, well, I don't know why, its easily the best forum on the internet, but it is clear on this one issue alone they have done more than their fair share of good.
 
Energize said:
They already did under the law against extreme porn. Laws in the shambles of a country that is the UK, are not based on logic and ethics, but pure tyranny of the majority morality.
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Some people just want to make us all into criminals.

Also people are notoriously bad at estimating age from photos. We've all seen a pic of a girl who is clearly 21+, followed by some prude insisting that she's underage. And they always tend to the ones posting "I'm reporting you to the F.B.I" or some such crap.
 
JeditOjanen said:
While you are apparently confusing pictures of 17 year old girls in bikinis (which were until recently allowed on Reddit) and pictures of 10 year old girls in bikinis, which were also allowed until recently. That's not to mention the rape fandom subreddits that are still allowed there.
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hurfdurf said:
Indeed, and we are not talking "here is a picture of my 10 year old daughter learning to swim!" family style photos, we are talking 10 year olds posing in underwear and comments like "oh damn I would like to have sex with her"
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As disgusting as the above are, it's still not illegal, and thus I don't believe it should be censored.

Also, Paedophiles aren't going anywhere. I'd much rather they satisfy their urges through perfectly legal channels than end up hurting a child :(
 
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can I just point out this is the same as newsgroups?
wasn't Alt.Binarys.* blocked on AOL et all because it was mostly child/teen porn?
 
FoxEye said:
ITT: people who can't see the difference between jailbait and C.P.

Sensationalist pap.
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"BEEP BOOP I AM A ROBOT LET ME SPERG TO YOU ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF DIFFERENT UNDER 18 PORNOGRAPHY DEFINITIONS."

Just because you can't see vagina and nipple does not make something suddenly not porn.
 
hurfdurf said:
"BEEP BOOP I AM A ROBOT LET ME SPERG TO YOU ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF DIFFERENT UNDER 18 PORNOGRAPHY DEFINITIONS."

Just because you can't see vagina and nipple does not make something suddenly not porn.
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Whether or not, it does make it 100% legal, which is something I think is being left out a lot here.
 
hurfdurf said:
"BEEP BOOP I AM A ROBOT LET ME SPERG TO YOU ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF DIFFERENT UNDER 18 PORNOGRAPHY DEFINITIONS."

Just because you can't see vagina and nipple does not make something suddenly not porn.
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There's a difference.
 
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FoxEye said:
There's a difference. Anway...

Here's an interesting (unverified) story about some Labour politicians wanting to criminalise sex with women under the age of 21 (prostitutes, mind).

http://theantifeminist.com/paying-for-sex-with-20-year-olds-to-be-criminilized-in-the-uk/

I'm not going to attempt to defend the practice of prostitution or porn, because it's impossible to, to be honest. But it shows an increasing willingness by the state to impose stricter "morality" on all of us.
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Start your own thread. This is about Reddit and child porn, not whatever the hell that is.
 
hurfdurf said:
SA members did something about it, and forced Reddit to change.

The problem with allowing open spaces for childporn is that it then creates incentive to make more, so it's all well and good catching them, it's just a lot of them would then be caught after they had done some serious damage.

Also that would mean relying on a competent uncorrupted Police force, of which one doesnt really exist.
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no, this is exactly the problem "I can't see it therefore it doesn't happen".

People who are in to "kids" are into them no matter if they come across one particular website. Just like most other things, bandaid....... yup problem fixed, everyone can feel good about themselves(especially as Bono/Geldof become sickeningly rich) then insist on everyone ELSE donating there money 20 years later, then feel all good again.

Childporn is there, always will be, just because its not on a website you use every day doesn't mean its not.

The more people that get caught, the more people go to jail, the more gets done about it the more people who even "into" it don't actually go rape kids because they are scared of the consequences.

The more you hide something the worse it gets, society has proven that time, and time, and time, and time again.
 
I didn't think the thread was exclusively about child porn. There was a lot of mention of jailbait pics too. You know, which isn't C.P.

Doesn't matter anyway. Reddit doesn't carry any pics of people under 30 now, thanks to the blanket ban on "anything that might be sexually provocative and doesn't look like it's had five kids". Everything else is automatically C.P.

I'm not pro-pedo, but anytime there's a storm about C.P. inevitably after all the scrubbing all you get left with is granny porn ;)
 
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