employers requesting facebook logins...

I neither condone nor condemn the first (the second is just an argument to the absurd fallacy). it is for each individual to decide what terms of employment they are willing to accept, and for the job market to determine the appropriate level of compensation for those terms need to be.

Not happy with the terms, don't take the job, simple.

Unfortunately unless you want a benefit state, people need to work, thus it's not a tenable situation.
 
It must be a nightmare making you dinner Dolph.

"I neither want nor do not want carrots, it is upto the market to decide which vegetables are priced on their merit for an evening meal."

and secondly if a potential employer asked me that i would, unless working for the secret service, protest and accept id failed the job interview.
 
Asking for a facebook login is not illegal or breaching any laws. You can walk down the high street and ask people for their login details etc.

It depends on who is doing the asking and why. Walking down the street probably isn't, but a company asking for it may well be.

If you are free to decide to give the information or not then it isn't infringing on your privacy. If the company installed a key logger and stole your login details then that would be different.

As I said, it may fall foul of the data protection act. Companies are not allowed to ask for and keep any data they wish "just in case". If a company does not have any reason to hold the information then they should not be doing so. Writing into your contract that you have to hand over the passwords of all your social networking software is quite possibly in breach of that.
 
It depends on who is doing the asking and why. Walking down the street probably isn't, but a company asking for it may well be.

As I said, it may fall foul of the data protection act. Companies are not allowed to ask for and keep any data they wish "just in case". If a company does not have any reason to hold the information then they should not be doing so. Writing into your contract that you have to hand over the passwords of all your social networking software is quite possibly in breach of that.

I am pretty sure Facebook could argue a good case that asking someone to break their terms and conditions causes them harm. Maybe then they could apply a MPAA type model to it and companies could be fined 150k per individual they bullied into this to cover the lost revenue.
 
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Anyone else getting bored of the word 'fallacy' in every post Dolph makes?

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Personally I've always been a fan of his random quotes in Latin.
 
Employers can make you do whatever they want before they offer you a job - and a whole load of new things afterwards - it just depends how it is worded - and how many employees are willing to just "take-it". I know of many employers who are actively using FB as a means to disciplin staff and to see what people are "realy " like before an interview. A lot of employers HR departments will also do google searches of names supplied and phone numbers supplied in CV's. :rolleyes:

I also know of a number of high-ranking companies that specify you add their HR staff as a friend before you go for jobs - so that they can see what you are really like and not what you would like an employer to think you are "like" - From what I remember there was a designer/artist guy on here who had a one of these requests as part of a job application a few months ago - the employer stated they wanted to see a portfolio from their FB page if I remember rightly.

And for anyone thinking of deactivating or saying they don't have a FB account - bear in mind - if you lie in your job application - and it can be proven that you lied - you will be in deep do-do.

One of the reasons again, that I deactivated my account a few years ago.

As for giving out your account details - Firstly it's probably in breach of FB policy - and secondly, if people are willing to work for a company that requests such details - they deserve all they get.
 
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It depends on who is doing the asking and why. Walking down the street probably isn't, but a company asking for it may well be.



As I said, it may fall foul of the data protection act. Companies are not allowed to ask for and keep any data they wish "just in case". If a company does not have any reason to hold the information then they should not be doing so. Writing into your contract that you have to hand over the passwords of all your social networking software is quite possibly in breach of that.

If a company asks to see your FB page for the intentions of developing a character profile before employment or checking you don't say certain things about the company once employed then that is perfectly legal. Of course you don't have to provide them with the details.
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/21/facebook_employer_login_request/

has anyone seen this? seems well out of order to me. what next? can we see your bank account and show us your manhood?

now, i dont have anything to hide on mine, but that doesnt mean some of my mates cant post something inappropriate. it would also mean they could see private messages! not even my wife needs to see those ;)

Well bank statments and certificates of good solvency are already required fir healthcare professionals running healthcare businesses in northern ireland, not sure about the rest of the UK, as i think you lot stopped implementation od RQIA when economic crisis hit, whereas our idiots in authority decided extra paperwork was the way forward.

The idea is, that you are seen to have good financial standing, therefore any healthcare decision will not be affected by finanical means.

I am not surprised that companies want to be added to your facebook, makes sence as the muppetry involved on the 'anon' net can be detrimental to all concerned.

Would i call my idiots in authority, idiots to their face, well quite possibly, but probably not in a public forum, mainly in an individual meeting, or small group.
 
Welcome to 1984. It seems you were right Mr Orwell.

I don't have a facebook account and I never will. I wonder what they would say or do at the interview when you told them you did not have a facebook account? Would they suggest you have to make one and you have to give them your login details?

This is toally madness and hopefully/surely illegal.
 
Welcome to 1984. It seems you were right Mr Orwell.

I don't have a facebook account and I never will. I wonder what they would say or do at the interview when you told them you did not have a facebook account? Would they suggest you have to make one and you have to give them your login details?

This is toally madness and hopefully/surely illegal.

If you said you don't have a FB then they will just move on with the interview, not a biggie.
 
Totally unprofessional in my opinion to even ask you the question. This is one of the reasons I only have a facebook account to see pictures of my wife and daughter.

I do know several people that have deleted accounts before job hunting, I also know a fair few people that have an account that is not in their real name to stop easy checks.

If they want to look me up on facebook, go for it. Login details would be a flat out "no".


And to cut to the chase with this, the REAL issue here is that employers don't want things being revealed on social networking sites about the company. I already have to put up with ridiculous social networking polices at my existing place of work. In my opinion, whilst a company doesn't want to look bad, if they treat employees badly, they deserve all the slagging off they can get.
 
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Welcome to 1984. It seems you were right Mr Orwell.

I don't have a facebook account and I never will. I wonder what they would say or do at the interview when you told them you did not have a facebook account? Would they suggest you have to make one and you have to give them your login details?

This is toally madness and hopefully/surely illegal.

They will probably mistrust you straight away. Only someone with something to hide would dare not have a facebook page.

Soon perhaps we will have no job without facebook, of course it wont be an official policy.
 
I wouldn't want to work for such a paranoid company. If they act like this prior to you working for them, imagine how bad it's going to be once you start!
 
I wouldn't want to work for such a paranoid company. If they act like this prior to you working for them, imagine how bad it's going to be once you start!

Now that I do agree with, I wouldn't want to work for such a company but im not surprised in the slightest that some companies ask for this.
 
Make of this what you will. I have noticed local adult learning centres are offering free courses in how to use facebook. Not how to use the web, email etc only how to use facebook. Financial cuts in services are being made left right and centre yet they still have funds for free courses in how to use facebook.
 
I wouldn't want to work for such a paranoid company. If they act like this prior to you working for them, imagine how bad it's going to be once you start!

This tbh, I would say it was intrusive during the interview, and if pressed, I would either lie or walk away.
 
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