US Teen guilty of British Tourists' murder

scorza said:
What's moronic is people pre-judging this case without being in possession of the facts that the authorities in Florida had access to. I mistrust anything that "goes viral" via Facebook, loads of people have egg on their face from that Kony 2012 thing - you'd think they'd have learnt.
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I have far more sympathy for people who got caught up in the 2012 clicktavism nonsense than I do for someone who says

"I didn't think "****" was a racist insult in the USA, only the UK."

"if Zimmerman was making a nuisance of himself to the residents I'm sure they'd have put a stop to it."

"How do you know the police didn't investigate properly?"

"Have you seen any recent pictures of Trayvon Martin? Not the ones of him an innocent young boy but rather the recent ones? If he didn't want to be suspected of anything why choose to look like a criminal?"
 
scorza said:
I think you'll find that Zimmerman claims he shot Martin in self defence, which is perfectly legal in Florida and elsewhere.
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Under the stand your ground laws, which goes out of the window when Zimmerman is on the phone, possibly says "****" and admits to following Martin, initiating the conflict.

But yea, its OK, "Martin looked like" a criminal. (read, was a black)
 
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hurfdurf said:
It's not psychopathy, its blatant racism instilled in some privileged whites in this country.

This same thought process leads people to think "oh she was wearing a skirt, well she was asking to get raped then, her own fault!"

It's disgusting and the fact that the mods here don't regulate against it is going to end in a Stonewall style lawsuit eventually. I got suspended for 2 days for calling someone racist... who was complaining about Muslims being in this country and saying Hitler was right.
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"Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/[1][2] from the Ancient Greek ψυχή "psyche", -soul and πάθος "pathos" -passion) is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others and the rules of society"

We're talking about the same thing.
 
scorza said:
I think you'll find that Zimmerman claims he shot Martin in self defence, which is perfectly legal in Florida and elsewhere.
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Only an idiot would believe someone backed into a corner over the evidence that lay before them. I pray you are never called for Jury service.
 
hurfdurf said:
I have far more sympathy for people who got caught up in the 2012 clicktavism nonsense than I do for someone who says

"I didn't think "****" was a racist insult in the USA, only the UK."

"if Zimmerman was making a nuisance of himself to the residents I'm sure they'd have put a stop to it."

"How do you know the police didn't investigate properly?"

"Have you seen any recent pictures of Trayvon Martin? Not the ones of him an innocent young boy but rather the recent ones? If he didn't want to be suspected of anything why choose to look like a criminal?"
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LOL I meant that "****" is an abbreviation for racoon in the USA, it doesn't mean black person at all. I remember back in the '90s Microsoft released some crappy FPS game where one of the characters would randomly yell "I grew up shootin' coons in mah momma's back yard" If it meant there what it meant here there's no way they'd have included that. Indeed, wasn't there an episode of South Park where Cartman played a super here called "The ****"?

As for the rest of it, from the link Longbow posted it seems that Zimmerman was a respected member of the community not some random, paranoid nut job the facebook generation are keen to portray him as.
 
territt said:
Your saying only "whites" are racist in this country? because im pretty sure your wrong.....
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I said whites when it comes to privilege, I didn't say that was the only source or form of racism or that they are the only perpetrators of racism, I have edited it to avoid further confusion.
 
scorza said:
LOL I meant that "****" is an abbreviation for racoon in the USA, it doesn't mean black person at all. I remember back in the '90s Microsoft released some crappy FPS game where one of the characters would randomly yell "I grew up shootin' coons in mah momma's back yard" If it meant there what it meant here there's no way they'd have included that. Indeed, wasn't there an episode of South Park where Cartman played a super here called "The ****"?

As for the rest of it, from the link Longbow posted it seems that Zimmerman was a respected member of the community not some random, paranoid nut job the facebook generation are keen to portray him as.
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****/ko͞on/
Noun:
offensive. A black person

First thing google brings up.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/****

The fact that you didn't get that that was the joke in South Park should say far more to you about your ability to get things than any of my posts, and as such, you really should stop further making yourself look silly by continuing to post.
 
NO YOU SEE CLEARLY IF HE WAS SAYING **** HE WAS JUST ABBREVIATING RACOON, HE DIDN'T MEAN THE RACIST NOTION ****, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T EXIST, OBVIOUSLY THE MUCH MORE LIKELY SCENARIO IS HE WAS REFERRING TO THE BLACK YOUTH AS A MEDIUM SIZED FURRY MAMAL RATHER THAN THE RACIST SLUR, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST, **** DOESN'T MEAN BLACK PERSON AT ALL. HOW COULD IT, IT WAS USED IN SOUTH PARK?! HURRRRRRRR
 
hurfdurf said:
****/ko͞on/
Noun:
offensive. A black person

First thing google brings up.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/****

The fact that you didn't get that that was the joke in South Park should say far more to you about your ability to get things than any of my posts, and as such, you really should stop further making yourself look silly by continuing to post.
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Was it really? Or was that just your interpretation?

Here are the latest pics of Trayvon Martin: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...otos-details-spark-online-debate-2267235.html

Not quite the angelic boy the media have portrayed him as huh? If you want to talk about injustice then fine, but one man killing another in self defence is not injustice. Ghettos alongside gated communities is the real injustice here.
 
scorza said:
Here are the latest pics of Trayvon Martin: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...otos-details-spark-online-debate-2267235.html

Not quite the angelic boy the media have portrayed him as huh? If you want to talk about injustice then fine, but one man killing another in self defence is not injustice. Ghettos alongside gated communities is the real injustice here.
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how is chasing someone down self defence?


also what do those pictures ave anything to do with it?

one dodgy close up of him showing off his jewellery and one of him being hugged by his father?


thers online show a pair of tattoos; one says "Sybrina," the first name of Trayvon's mother
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the evil git!


Was it really? Or was that just your interpretation?
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yep

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8462/****.png
 
scorza said:
Was it really? Or was that just your interpretation?

Here are the latest pics of Trayvon Martin: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...otos-details-spark-online-debate-2267235.html

Not quite the angelic boy the media have portrayed him as huh? If you want to talk about injustice then fine, but one man killing another in self defence is not injustice. Ghettos alongside gated communities is the real injustice here.
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So your defence is for me to look at the pictures of him?

Sorry, I'm not a disgusting racist so all I see are pictures of a young black man, am I meant to defer a deeper meaning from them. I guess if I was racist my thought process would be "oh he does look threatening, being a black male and all".

Instead, I look at the evidence and all the witness reports, that the local Police tried to cover up, including witness tampering and correcting, which is why Florida Governor Rick Scott has had to direct the state department to oversee local authorities, based on how badly they have messed this up from the very beginning.
 
scorza said:
I think you'll find that Zimmerman claims he shot Martin in self defence, which is perfectly legal in Florida and elsewhere.
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Suspect claims he wasn't breaking the law shocker!

scorza said:
LOL I meant that "****" is an abbreviation for racoon in the USA, it doesn't mean black person at all.
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Really? :rolleyes:

scorza said:
As for the rest of it, from the link Longbow posted it seems that Zimmerman was a respected member of the community not some random, paranoid nut job
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Even if correct, so what?

scorza said:
Here are the latest pics of Trayvon Martin: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...otos-details-spark-online-debate-2267235.html
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Once again, so what?
 
scorza said:
Was it really? Or was that just your interpretation?

Here are the latest pics of Trayvon Martin: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...otos-details-spark-online-debate-2267235.html

Not quite the angelic boy the media have portrayed him as huh? If you want to talk about injustice then fine, but one man killing another in self defence is not injustice. Ghettos alongside gated communities is the real injustice here.
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What exactly are you inferring from those pictures? That somebody who wears a vest and hat in Florida (read: hot) is somehow automatically a criminal? You're mental.
 
Tom0 said:
Oh, so free men of colour that owned slaves didn't use whips. I see.

If I really wanted to be pedantic, I could just suggest it's nothing to do with race and it was a name given to poor famers that grow corn. IE. Corn Crackers, or even the fact that cowboys were called crackers.

There are lots of theories really, but in this context it's generalising by future generations of abolished slavery not the actual slaves. To them anyone with a whip could have been called "cracker".

I repeat, (before you paste some website saying that only whites were called cracker) Bias is fun.
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Where did I state that free men of colour didn't use whips? All I stated was that blacks used the term cracker towards whites. They probably used a different term or didn't use a term at all for the free men of colour...
 
Spenty said:
Where did I state that free men of colour didn't use whips? All I stated was that blacks used the term cracker towards whites. They probably used a different term or didn't use a term at all for the free men of colour...
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Sorry, I'm afraid you're wrong. I've explained how.

Research or generalise. Up to you really. :)
 
Spenty said:
No, I'm afraid I'm right, they used that term towards whites whether you like it or not. I am not being biased at all.
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It's not wether I like it or not. It's not my opinion.

None of it is fact just theories where the term comes from.

It's become a general degoragtory term for "whites" AFTER slavery. As I've said for slaves, anyone that whipped them were given the name "cracker" Black or White. Clearly there were more White slave owners so it stuck there-on after. Doesn't mean it was an exclusive term for White owners.

I've even given you examples of other theories. All you can muster is "I'm right cos I say so even if you don't like it". :confused: Either you're trolling or just unable to admit you're wrong and for that reason sorry, but I'm out.
 
SubScape said:
What exactly are you inferring from those pictures? That somebody who wears a vest and hat in Florida (read: hot) is somehow automatically a criminal? You're mental.
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That he looks like a gangsta, it's more the gold teeth than anything. Sorry but if I see a guy who looks like that walking down the street I cross over. If that makes me a racist then I'm a racist, though in my defence, if I see someone looking like Sir Trevor McDonald walking down the street, I don't cross over.
 
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