david cameron ''children should stand up''

I dislike what David Cameron says, mainly because he says it. There is just something unredeemable about the man, his smugness, attitude etc.

Yes I'm aware it's an irrational view, but I really don't like the man.

Yeah, because we'd be so much better off with Ed Millibrain in power. :rolleyes:
 
No, respect is given until you have a reason to no longer respect them. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

Some innocent people don't deserve respect your analogy is poor, justice is different to respect.

I believe a child should stand up for their teacher if they respect them, if they don't they don't have to, it's up to the individual if they respect someone. Telling children to respect teachers straight away without getting to know them is a bad idea. Every school has bad teachers and good teachers, why should you respect someone if they are a poor teacher? Because it's school policy? That's ridiculous. I don't like the idea, it should not be mandatory.
 
No one is suggesting that you should only show respect to teachers

No but they're advocating having to stand up every time the teacher enters the room.

Teachers are in a position of authority over their students, this alone is enough to engender respect, you are showing respect for their authority rather than their person

Their authority? They're there to teach.

doing your work and listening is the minimum of what is expected of you and school is not only about learning arithmetic etc, it is also about learning social skills and how they fit into formal situations

The minimum? I think you have this backwards. It would be the entirety of going to school, if you do not listen and do the work then you fail at school and then at life. If I excel at my academics while lacking in social skills I would still be a success, like your boss who you hate due to his social skills but he excels in academics and is in a higher position.

standing when a teacher enters the room at the beginning of a lesson, or while they enter assembly is simply a mechanism to instruct and not a punishment or some onerous unfair assault on your rights......

I am not a robot and I have free will and should not be forced to confirm to made up standards which would be no different if everyone believed raising your hand instead meant showing respect.

A few more manners is a good thing.

Respect and manners are two different things.

And standing up is a mark of good manners and respect

What's the difference between standing up or just raising your hand while seated? What if my version of showing respect is look at them and sit straight. Why should my beliefs be infringed?
 
Some innocent people don't deserve respect your analogy is poor, justice is different to respect.

I believe a child should stand up for their teacher if they respect them, if they don't they don't have to, it's up to the individual if they respect someone. Telling children to respect teachers straight away without getting to know them is a bad idea. Every school has bad teachers and good teachers, why should you respect someone if they are a poor teacher? Because it's school policy? That's ridiculous. I don't like the idea, it should not be mandatory.

What, so you should be a **** in school if you don't respect your teachers?
 
I think that you simply do not understand what respect, politeness and manners are and if you do you do not understand how they should be applied.

You are applying politeness and manners with respect when it should not be the case. I am discussing respect, not politeness or manners.

Which is a sad indictment on the 21st Century if that kind of attitude to others is become the norm.

You need to accept this is how the 21st century is and deal with it.
 
You instantly show them basic human respect. But, on top of that, a teacher holds a certain position of authority, within the educational framework - you respect that position, and thus respect them at that higher level.

Basic human respect sure. I have no problem with that, but you don't stand up for everyone.

There are a lot of bad teachers and some are criminals. Children should be allowed to judge their teachers before they give them respect because respect is a judgement of a person. You are taught to not judge a book by it's cover, so why is respect an exception of the rule. I understand that the majority of teachers are good people, and the majority deserve respect.

When I was at school there were a lot of teachers that I respected greatly, however when I first arrived at the school I didn't respect them, and neither did you respect yours. You respected them after learning from them and finding that they are good people and good at their jobs. Being forced into doing something like standing up to your teachers every time is not right and is not right in the United Kingdom.
 
You instantly show them basic human respect. But, on top of that, a teacher holds a certain position of authority, within the educational framework - you respect that position, and thus respect them at that higher level.

I think that's counter productive to the whole 'teaching' thing that schools are supposed to be doing. If your teacher has some 'extra' respect just for getting the job then you don't treat them as people, and often that can lead to them not treating you as people. But if you stop forging boundaries and just treat them normally - get to know them, if they're good enough start to like them and see them as a sort of friend then you'll be much more comfortable in the classroom, more likely to ask questions, more likely to pay attention and to respect them not because of the position they hold but because of the opinion they earned.

I definitely know that in my experience the amount i learn from a teacher is directly proportional to how good my relationship with them is. We even threw our maths teacher a surprise birthday party :D
 
What, so you should be a **** in school if you don't respect your teachers?

?????????

Ridiculous assumption, teachers earn your respect, and you as a person also have to earn respect, respect is a two way thing, if you want to be respected you have to earn it the same goes for teachers.

If you want mutual respect from your teachers you would not act like a, whatever your expletive is, but try to earn their respect.
 
That's just common courtesy. You shouldn't do it because you respect them, you should do it because you aren't a ****.

I do that anyway but it was actually "if there is a teacher within viewing distance who is going to use the door in the next 2 minutes you have to open the door". It wasn't just opening the door, it was letting them go ahead as well.
 
Respect is earned, not given. Addressing them by their surname is enough.

I was bought up with the belief you should respect your elders and especially those who taught you important lessons for your life ahead. Whether that be your parents or your teachers.

Unfortunately we have too many people who seem to demand respect for themselves but refuse to give any. 21st Century like some here have pointed out.
 
I agree with Castiel on this.

I respect everyone I meet the moment I meet them, as I would like to be respected back.

If they give me reason to not respect them, then that respect is gone.

You should respect your teachers, they are there to teach you; they are teaching you the skills that you need in order to be a fully functioning member of society so respect them for that reason.
 
I was bought up with the belief you should respect your elders and especially those who taught you important lessons for your life ahead. Whether that be your parents or your teachers.

Unfortunately we have too many people who seem to demand respect for themselves but refuse to give any. 21st Century like some here have pointed out.

This is what i'm talking about!
 
I agree with Castiel on this.

I respect everyone I meet the moment I meet them, as I would like to be respected back.

If they give me reason to not respect them, then that respect is gone.

You should respect your teachers, they are there to teach you; they are teaching you the skills that you need in order to be a fully functioning member of society so respect them for that reason.

Then if that were the case the teachers would stand up for you when you leave the room too.
 
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