david cameron ''children should stand up''

JAzz said:
Unfortunately we have too many people who seem to demand respect for themselves but refuse to give any. 21st Century like some here have pointed out.
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I believe it's a two way street, I have never needed a school to decide how I should judge others or which direction my moral compass should face or have any moral obligation to anyone.
 
Moses said:
That's why I distinguished between basic respect, and respecting them because of their position in the school's hierarchy. Respecting them is needed for a good educational environment, imo... especially before A-levels, where classes tend to be larger.
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No-one on this planet should expect respect above basic respect at first meeting, teachers included. A good teacher will earn respect and take hold of a class and can do for long periods of time.

Also looking at the bigger picture and probably the biggest point of all:

Children would stand up because they had to not out of respect, and as such it would be an exercise in futility.
Do you really think that even if children were made to stand up when teachers came in the class that that would instantly make them respect them. It wouldn't you would still have bad kids, and ones who don't respect the teacher.
 
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Don't get me started on this subject.
Not only did I stand up but I come from a time when you didn't dare speak in a classroom unless asked to do so.
Of course if you did speak out of turn there were a choice of weapons hanging up on the wall.
It never did any of us any harm and taught us respect.
 
Mason- said:
No-one on this planet should expect respect above basic respect at first meeting, teachers included. A good teacher will earn respect and take hold of a class and can do for long periods of time.
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When I was a teenager I was a terrible judge of who deserved my respect because... well... I was a teenager.

You should respect your teachers unless they give you reason not to, end of.
 
School doesent teach me respect, my parents teach me.
So when my parents teach me, I apply it at school
 
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Dimple said:
Don't get me started on this subject.
Not only did I stand up but I come from a time when you didn't dare speak in a classroom unless asked to do so.
Of course if you did speak out of turn there were a choice of weapons hanging up on the wall.
It never did any of us any harm and taught us respect.
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You're confusing fear of pain with respect.

Elixir said:
When I was a teenager I was a terrible judge of who deserved my respect because... well... I was a teenager.

You should respect your teachers unless they give you reason not to, end of.
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And a teacher should respect his pupils unless they give him/her a reason not to, so why does one have to stand up for the other?

Moses said:
Everyone deserves a base level of respect, in life. Teachers deserve the special respect, in school, because of their position in the educational hierarchy.

Exhibit A,


I rest my case.
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Indeed everyone does deserve a base level of respect.
Your reasoning is poor and lacking solidity, teachers deserve special respect, why? Because of their position in the education hierarchy, well what about a pupils position in the educational hierarchy?

And wow, that's some pretty solid evidence right there.
From now on every HBO produced show I will take as gospel.
 
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Tyron said:
I believe it's a two way street, I have never needed a school to decide how I should judge others or which direction my moral compass should face or have any moral obligation to anyone.
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So who helped you form your moral compass, it must be based on something or some form of learning, you weren't born with it.
 
Dimple said:
And that's a bad thing in a classroom?
We need to get back to old fashioned values.
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At the moment it's a bad thing.

If a child is wrong, and in your eyes is deserving of being hit, then whenever you are out of line with anyone in public, you should be allowed to hit them too? No because that's assault.

Children should not be treated differently in that regard, at my school one of the teachers lost a class full of coursework. Should the children hit him because he's out of line, or perhaps the headteacher should hit him? No, you can't, so why should a child be allowed to be hit.

The teacher was sacked, adequate justice for such a crime.

Notice how it was resolved without violence.

Children should not be harmed because they are being wrong. And if they are allowed to be harmed so too should adults for being out of line.

Or we can keep the way we have things now and they are both resolved without violence.
 
Housey said:
So who helped you form your moral compass, it must be based on something or some form of learning, you weren't born with it.
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No one helped me in the sense of teaching me, I just learned from interacting with people, a series of trial and error, having a dog ect.

Oh and a few plotical books, sun tzu and makaveli :p
 
I would expect parents and teachers to show the same respect as the children should.

If a teacher is sat down when a pupil enters the room, they should stand. Respect goes both ways, right?
 
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