I think you can blame him a lot because he's absolute **** through the middle, he was particularly terrible when Lennon was missing and he was the only sort of width and yet he still drifted inside to attempt the Messi role.
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I think you can blame him a lot because he's absolute **** through the middle, he was particularly terrible when Lennon was missing and he was the only sort of width and yet he still drifted inside to attempt the Messi role.
it's a tough one, he has the ability to become more versatile so if he never tries, he'll never know. it has worked on occassions but there is no question he is most effective going down the wing and the left wing, none of this switching him to the right malarky.
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Lennon over Nani? Surely not Aaron Lennon? Oh, it's a joke right?
Not to get into the whole who's better than who because lets face it you being a Spurs supporter you're going to over rate your players but why make the comparison of Lennon over Anderson? Ones an average wide player the other is an average central midfielder
I assumed he meant John Lennon as a musician? :/
just to highlight a few inadequacies with your post
1) I guess you missed the fact that before Cleverley's injury, United where a lot more fluid going forward, without a shadow of doubt (even in big games) he was the central link beween midfield and attack. It Just Worked. After the injury midfield really struggled until Schoes signed
2) There was approximately THREE MONTHS between Cleverley being injured and Scholes re-signing in Jan, incl a couple of Christmas time defeats
3) Goals and Assists are not the only way an attacking player can be a huge affect on a team performance going forward
Just a few of the more notable delusions corrected
Modric is probably Spurs' only world class player, Bale turns it on maybe five times a season.
van der Vaart while great at first has slowly declined. Parker, Sandro and Lennon are all effective players but no more than that.
van der Vaart while great at first has slowly declined. Parker, Sandro and Lennon are all effective players but no more than that.
yes, lennon over nani. he's a good winger, not long come back from injury and has given us good balance. lennon actually plays best with corluka, excellent link up play. he still plays well with walker but walker is probably faster than him so often progresses just as far forward. there's no denying nani is a good player but he hasn't been too great this season, valencia is a great player and seems like a very decent person, i don't think i've ever seen him dive (like young) young is a good winger, no denying that either. i wasn't aware anderson was solely a central player but then i can't remember the last time i saw him play.
as for VDV, him and manu play well togethor and VDV has a good work rate and attitude, far better than manu who seems to alternate weeks of being arsed or not.
sandro's work rate is up there with the best and i hope he gets more chances next season. if modric does go, i would happily have a cm of parker and sandro though i understand we would lose the playmaking of modric as parker and sandro both break things down and pass the ball to modric to make something happen.
as for VDV, him and manu play well togethor and VDV has a good work rate and attitude, far better than manu who seems to alternate weeks of being arsed or not.
sandro's work rate is up there with the best and i hope he gets more chances next season. if modric does go, i would happily have a cm of parker and sandro though i understand we would lose the playmaking of modric as parker and sandro both break things down and pass the ball to modric to make something happen.
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Just to correct your lack of reading ability, I've specifically said Cleverley looked very good, for a short number of games and the WHOLE team was playing better. Since then Cleverley hasn't looked nearly as good in a not nearly as good Utd team. As I said, ASSUMING he'd make a big impact based off 6 games, is simply assuming to far. If he was excellent last season for the whole season with Utd in the big games then you could say he was a big miss this year. THe fact is you have no idea how he would have done in the tough games where you've dropped points.
I've said Cleverley looks a real prospect, I've said it all season, but prospect, lots of potential and a handful of performances do not a season relying on him make. Before you rewrite history, the games Utd won easily with Cleverley.... West brom(they were at home, look at their home form, its abysmal), Spurs(late start, utter balls their first two games, good performance though), Bolton(5-0 win, Cleverley played 7 minutes), Aldershot, Everton. Around 383 minutes, just over 4 games, against realistically ONE real side in Spurs, if you want to count the Arsenal C team, go ahead. He looks good, but based off just over 4 games, against no one in form, no one good, no one Utd shouldn't have thumped and pretending you might have won the title if he was fit all year is..... completely ridiculous.
Second, no idea, never said Scholes came in right after Cleverley, never suggested anything like it.
third, yes, there is more to football than goals and assists. Which is why you will rarely if ever see a stat on its own, keep with the same false argument that so many other people like to use. Young IS better than Nani and Valencia. He's been more consistent, scored more goals and gotten more assists over a 5 year period than either of the other two, he's been better this season with more injuries, less time and in a new team.
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Totally clueless
Young's not even close to being as good as either let alone better
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It's probably hard for an internet football fan such as yourself to understand but it was our last home game of the season and we'd just gone from likely relegated to possibly staying up. There is a pitch invasion at most final home games, whether we go up or down it doesn't matter, we'll still be watching our team while you post about yours on a computer.
there wasn't at OT yesterday ''is this a fire drill'' was the song i heard
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Totally clueless
Young's not even close to being as good as either let alone better
While goals and assists aren't everything at all, does the fact that Young scores almost 4 times as often as Valencia, nor the fact that he assists significantly more frequently literally mean nothing at all?
Ultimately Young has been involved in more goals against top half teams, more assists against top half teams, and all the while playing significantly less while scoring more and assisting almost as much.
There is more to football, and Valencia has had some great games, the VAST majority of these have come against the worst teams in the league, you simply can't deny that.
Beyond beautiful football there is WINNING games, which is what you guys are all bemoaning about WHY you weren't winning the title this year. Young is simply more effective against the teams you were dropping points against.
If Valencia is better, why have they dropped more most of their points this half of the season when Valencia played but Young didn't, why is young assisting and scoring more frequently, why are you winning more games with Young than Valencia?
That's right, because you don't like Young and love anyone that isn't Young, because you said he'd be **** before he joined, didn't like him and still won't admit how well he's doing.
Valencia on the other hand has outside of utter joke teams(wolves, blackburn, etc) done little to nothing this year.
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Right, so Valencia has done little to nothing this year?
13 assists and 4 goals is NOT "little to nothing".
Whether it is against lower tier opposition or against the top 4, every assist and goal counts. Especially when it is coming down to goal difference at the end of the season.
Also, there is no way of proving whether Young could have done what Valencia did in which game. This can be flipped the other way of course but each player has their own strengths and weaknesses.
But to say little to nothing? Jog on.
AND in addition...
Valencia - Shots 24 in 26 games (2034mins) 4 goals.
Young - Shots 49 shots in 24 games (1484mins) 6 goals.
This could easily be twisted into saying Young is being wasteful considering how many shots he has had compared to how many goals he has scored. This could vary from shooting instead of passing, having a decent shot and the goalkeeper making a good save or a scuffed effort.
I agree with quite a few of your posts DM but this one i do not.
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There's a kit thread!
Funny at the end of the video though, as if Wenger drives a DS3.
Could you list the Spurs players you think are "world class" then?
Could you read the list of players that people have already mentioned? i am not going to copy and paste same thing that has been said. please read
Could you read the list of players that people have already mentioned? i am not going to copy and paste same thing that has been said. please read
I have been reading, but I want to hear specifics from you as you keep bringing it up.
Why do Spurs have a massively better squad than United and Arsenal? Who are their world class players?