President Obama Endorses Gay Marriage

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:08

The Halk said:
Citation needed.

All the states who voted no in America, everyone who follows the 3 major religions, the countries in the ME/Asia who have it banned.

What's your evidence the majority are in favour of it?

Vulcan · 9 May 2012 at 23:08

Tyron said:
Most of them are, and everyone who is against it is affraid to let people vote.

I guess the OcUK community is mostly gay then.

The Halk · 9 May 2012 at 23:09

Tyron said:
All the states who voted no in America, everyone who follows the 3 major religions, the countries in the ME/Asia who have it banned.

What's your evidence the majority are in favour of it?

I don't have any? I'm also not stating that the majority are not opposed (in favour is really not the way to word it).

You're saying the majority are opposed. Back it up.

estebanrey · 9 May 2012 at 23:09

Tyron said:
Most of them are, and everyone who is against it is affraid to let people vote.

And how do you know this? It seems in the UK the majority are in favour of gay marraige...

Opinion polls have shown varying, but increasing, levels of support for same-sex marriage among Britons.

A 2004 poll by Gallup reported that 52% agreed that 'marriages between homosexuals' should be recognised while 45% said they should not.

The Observer found that 55% of Britons believed that same-sex couples should be allowed to get married while 45% disagreed.[46][47]

An opinion poll conducted in June 2009 by Populus for The Times reported 61% of the British public agreed with the statement 'Gay couples should have an equal right to get married, not just to have civil partnerships', while 33% disagreed.

That puts you in the 'minority'.....scary isn't it

estebanrey · 9 May 2012 at 23:10

Scougar said:
Have you quoted the wrong person?

Nope, you replied to someone who said they didn't being gay was "right" and you said you agreed with their position and couldn't understand why other were having a pop at you for it.

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:11

The Halk said:
I don't have any? I'm also not stating that the majority are not opposed (in favour is really not the way to word it).

You're saying the majority are opposed. Back it up.

I already have, there are more people who follow the 3 prominant religions than there are homosexuals, I don't need anymore evidence.

Scougar · 9 May 2012 at 23:12

estebanrey said:
Nope, you replied to someone who said they didn't being gay was "right" and you said you agreed with their position and couldn't understand why other were having a pop at you for it.

Totally lost me. Did you mean to quote me then? He wasn't infering about the 'right' part of my paragraph.

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:12

estebanrey said:
That puts you in the 'minority'.....scary isn't it

Scary from a worthless poll with nothing to back it up? Try again.

estebanrey · 9 May 2012 at 23:12

Tyron said:
I already have, there are more people who follow the 3 prominant religions than there are homosexuals, I don't need anymore evidence.

Well I've proved you're wrong on British attitudes to the subject.

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:13

estebanrey said:
Well I've proved you're wrong on British attitudes to the subject.

No you haven't check my post above yours.

Scougar · 9 May 2012 at 23:14

(with reference to increasing number of Britons supporting same sex marriage)

estebanrey said:
And how do you know this? It seems in the UK the majority are in favour of gay marraige...

That puts you in the 'minority'.....scary isn't it

lol.. and it all started with CH4's Big Brother ;-)

estebanrey · 9 May 2012 at 23:15

Tyron said:
Scary from a worthless poll with nothing to back it up? Try again.

LMFAO, you asked for "proof" that the majority supported gay marriage and you reject the factual data I present.

Meanwhile your "proof" that more people oppose it is based on nothing more than the fact there are more people who self-recognise as being part of a major religion than there are gay people.

I can't be bothered to point out all the obvious flaws in your logic as the assumption you make that anyone religious must by definition also oppose gay marriage is ignorant enough to tell me it would be futile doing a full point by point rebuttal.

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:17

estebanrey said:
LMFAO, you asked for "proof" that the majority supported gay marriage and you reject the factual data I present.

Meanwhile your "proof" that more people oppose it is based on nothing more than the fact there are more people who self-recognise as being part of a major religion than there are gay people.

I can't be bothered to point out all the obvious flaws in your logic as the assumption you make that anyone religious must by definition also oppose gay marriage is ignorant enough to tell me it would be futile doing a full point by point rebuttal.

Your poll didn't even have a link, it is dated in 2004, this is 2012, the poll is backed up by nothing.

I have provided hard evidence, you have provided cheap laughs.

Close the door on the way out.

estebanrey · 9 May 2012 at 23:19

Tyron said:
I have provided hard evidence

Where is this hard evidence? All you've said is more people are religious than gay as if the two are opposites to one another. That's asinine and you're obviously a troll.

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:21

estebanrey said:
Where is this hard evidence? All you've said is more people are religious than gay as if the two are opposites to one another. That's asinine and you're obviously a troll.

I like how you ignore my whole post.

Close the door please

Scougar · 9 May 2012 at 23:23

Blimey at least i was discussing the topic, rather than you guys bitching. Have you considered marriage?

growse · 9 May 2012 at 23:27

Scougar said:
Blimey at least i was discussing the topic, rather than you guys bitching. Have you considered marriage?

Hang on, we've got a guy here claiming that every heterosexual CoE and Catholic is against gay marriage. This sort of comedy doesn't come along very often.

Scougar · 9 May 2012 at 23:30

growse said:
Hang on, we've got a guy here claiming that every heterosexual CoE and Catholic is against gay marriage. This sort of comedy doesn't come along very often.

lol, sorry, please do carry on!!

Tyron · 9 May 2012 at 23:31

growse said:
Hang on, we've got a guy here claiming that every heterosexual CoE and Catholic is against gay marriage. This sort of comedy doesn't come along very often.

Your reading comprehension skills are more comical, as that's not what I aserted.

King Damager · 9 May 2012 at 23:32

Tyron said:
So selective democracy?

You can't pick and chose when you want it.

The population are idiots... Unfortunately. That's why we don't have a referendum on absolutely everything. We elect people with some, perhaps limited, intelligence to do make the decisions that the general population are too stupid to.

Anyway, back to the original topic.

I think it's good that he has done it. Interesting though. He'll split the voters on this certainly. Not to mention I think that in this case, without an amendment to the constitution, I'm sure the Deep South would find a way to get the State Laws to override any Governmental decree.

He'll completely alienate the republicans, but gain a lot of support amongst the more liberal population.

Obama will definitely need a lot of the minorities to turn out and vote for him again to win. That said if he loses, history will probably put this as the cause for his demise rather than other factors... Well the media will certainly focus on it.

kd