*** The 2012 Gym Rats Thread ***

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icecold said:
Yeah 140kg is pretty big! Do you have that "tacky" stuff as well? That is surely the only way to shift such a beast.
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Ordered some yesterday, doing it raw gives mental bruises on the inner forearm lol
I've used some before, its called tacky for a reason, might as well be using superglue!

the other thing is, stones get bigger the heavier they are. If you are a giant then getting your arms into a comfortable position is easy, when you are 5'9 like me though, short arms and fat belly restrict the distance around the stone that you place your arms lol

Something else for this weekend head down to B&Q and get 4 or 5 bags of sand and a load of tape to make some heavy sand bags
 
icecold said:
Yep, my view exactly. There are a lot of "right" ways to do these things.
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Indeed. 1 solution fixes will never ever be applicable for this sort of thing - the human body whilst, in basic principles is identical, it's also vastly different as to how it responds to certain stimuli.

What works for some won't work as well for others (it will work, but the results may be less pronounced).

Also some people who are starting out will gain a lot more and more quickly than those of us that are edging towards our limits. So people see changes more or less quickly by doing different things, and claim that their gains are owing to their training, rather than the fact that they're new to training or new to a style of training, or it's the first time they've changed their training styles. However it could be that their training and diet really is that good.

We're here to share our experiences and knowledge. No one knows it more than anyone else. Everyone has their own little tips and tricks and ideas.
 
Morba said:
Ordered some yesterday, doing it raw gives mental bruises on the inner forearm lol

the other thing is, stones get bigger the heavier they are. If you are a giant then getting your arms into a comfortable position is easy, when you are 5'9 like me though, short arms and fat belly restrict the distance around the stone that you place your arms lol

Something else for this weekend head down to B&Q and get 4 or 5 bags of sand and a load of tape to make some heavy sand bags
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I'd love to give the stones a go. Can I pop round?! :D
 
A very valid point there FF, the more you train the less you gain. The law of diminishing returns definitely has an affect.
 
Hey, I'm looking for some advice/guidance really, I've been going to the gym now with no set routine. My intent is to generally get fitter, whilst to improve and give my muscles more definition. Also would anyone be able to explain or point me in the direction of what supplements are and how I should use them, and IF I should even be using it at all. Thank you for any pointers given :)
 
There is a supps thread not far from the first page (if it isn't on the first page) :)

I'll give you some help before you get in there though: You don't need them.

Sort your diet, your routine and your rest out. Then if you need it, look at supps :)
 
MoNkeE said:
Oh no I'm certainly not having a pop at U_E, as I said I do enjoy his contributions, just he's mentioned things like this on quite a few of his recent posts :)

Delvis, weird, you certainly don't look like a chicken. Just a breast :p
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i know what you mean m8, i try to keep my training direct and simple while of course safe and injury free. Its not really that i have a problem with flexibility, mobility and of course good form, i just get annoyed at how over stressed it is in this forum to the point that everyone is terrified of a 200kg deadlift.
 
Working on my form / mobility has helped me massively the past year. I doubt I'd have my 200kg squat and 230kg deadlift without it.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
i know what you mean m8, i try to keep my training direct and simple while of course safe and injury free. Its not really that i have a problem with flexibility, mobility and of course good form, i just get annoyed at how over stressed it is in this forum to the point that everyone is terrified of a 200kg deadlift.
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The thing is there are a lot of inexperienced lifters reading this forum and even if they don't contribute, it would be rather callous of us to propose poor lifting technique as an acceptable means to an end to get a certain weight up. Sometimes sacrificing a little bit of max lift will help long term. Also, I'd rather lift a slightly lighter weight perfectly 2 or 3 times, than a heavier weight once, poorly. All it takes is one **** up and you're starting from scratch after a lay off or you'll just not progress any further as your body has adapted to your poor technique and you'll be limiting yourself.

Mobility and movement is there to enhance your technique and ability and unlock potential, not stifle it. :)
 
yeah the problem really is that this is a forum, by no means do i advocate poor form or dangerous technique but in the gym i push my training partners to go harder and heavier while making sure the form doesnt stray beyond 'poor' into 'dangerous'.

But as you say on a forum who knows what people will extrapolate from the advice. I just think a good few contributors here would be more successful if they just got on and lifted.
 
I agree for PBs a certain amount of form strictness can be overlooked (as long as you're still "safe") - however working around your 90% strict form is critical as you will be doing some more significant volume and the chance of potential problems increase. It's not just about safety though, it's also about effective lifting and not forcing your body to compensate or activate the wrong muscles. You want to make sure you engage the muscles you're actually interested in using! :)
 
Agreed. Example is people using lower back to pull the weight during a deadlift. We know it's really bad, but also it's damn weak for the lift too.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
i know what you mean m8, i try to keep my training direct and simple while of course safe and injury free. Its not really that i have a problem with flexibility, mobility and of course good form, i just get annoyed at how over stressed it is in this forum to the point that everyone is terrified of a 200kg deadlift.
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Glad you didn't take it the wrong way mate, as I do find your lifting impressive :cool:

BTW, where do you buy your food from, do you bulk buy to keep it cheaper?
 
There are several members who have injuries due to incorrect form, and the majority of those members knew what correct form is, hence the recent onus on mobility work.

Tbh get over it. It's far from a bad thing and there has been no noise made about it until you started complaining because not all are doing things just like you. Some of us have different goals to you. Instead of trying to change the goals of others, you could contribute and help people achieve what they want, and in return receive help from others to achieve what you want.

You even made a snotty remark about the rule of not discussing steroids. Get over it and yourself please, it is very boring.
 
I have found that working on my form and mobility primarily highlights areas where I am weak, then I am able to strengthen them to make steps towards a stronger whole. That's my reasoning behind why I'm so anal over this stuff :).

Squat weight goes up tonight and a drop in volume to a good old fashioned 5x5 :). I've just got a new phone though so I can't forget to transfer my routine from the old one to the new :).
 
I found I hurt myself after doing mobility work :o..........Joking, it was just poor form no doubt.



Back session tonight, can't wait
 
Delvis said:
I found I hurt myself after doing mobility work :o..........Joking, it was just poor form no doubt.



Back session tonight, can't wait
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Whats involved?

My core(abs) are still sore from the core work on Monday! Gotta love Ab-Rollouts 5x5 (7kg dumbbell) and planks! :D
 
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