Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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desires said:
Nice, I just googled 'Tommen' to see his heritage and saw a massive spoiler :mad: god damn books. I am right, he is a baratheon. Only as much as Joffrey but there is no real proof of incest and anyone that has come close to solidly proving it so far has been killed off, such as Arryn and Ned.
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Not sure how they'd be able to prove it.
Cersei already said to Nedd that all 3 were Jaime's.
By Baratheon, I meant Rob's children, they're not, they don't have any claim to the name Baratheon.

Ned sent a raven to Stannis, who in turn told pretty much all the lords.
Everyone knows they're pretty much incest born kids.
 
I don't think that their parentage is an issue anymore and that nobody is powerful enough to remove the Lannisters by force. Stannis was close, though.

Can't stand Joffrey as he is such a pathetic fart.
 
simpletom said:
I don't think that their parentage is an issue anymore and that nobody is powerful enough to remove the Lannisters by force. Stannis was close, though.

Can't stand Joffrey as he is such a pathetic fart.
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This is the point though, if Joffrey were to die Tommen would be king as he is a Baratheon. Who cares if he isn't truly a baratheon, who is going to stand up to them? The only way to remove the fake baratheons is by force which is kind of what the whole show is about so far :p

The start of the first book he's actually painted quite well. Described as a very tall handsome young man, all I could think of was the guy in the HBO show and just decided the book was wrong. He's soon shown to be an arse hole though.
 
simpletom said:
I don't think that their parentage is an issue anymore and that nobody is powerful enough to remove the Lannisters by force. Stannis was close, though.

Can't stand Joffrey as he is such a pathetic fart.
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Exactly, which would force Tommen to be heir.

If Stannis never had Renly KO'ed things would have gone differently.
 
Can somebody explain to me why Baratheon was put in charge of the throne after the mad king was killed? Is this something I should know or is it explained later? If later I don't want to know I guess.
 
PermaBanned said:
Oh he's very quickly shown to be an arse in the books, when he's fighting with Robb in Winterfell i believe.
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Yep, won't fight with blunt swords, only proper ones, which makes him look like a tough guy but he knows the master-of-swords won't allow sharp swords so he ends up looking like a tough guy even though he knows what he's doing. Really frustrates me that sort of behavior, you actually see it quite often in the real world.
 
desires said:
Can somebody explain to me why Baratheon was put in charge of the throne after the mad king was killed? Is this something I should know or is it explained later? If later I don't want to know I guess.
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He led the rebellion, he had the people behind him and he was pretty much the best fighter going. Nobody was going to risk turning against him, not even Tywin. I guess with 17 or so years of hindsight he may have not taken it for himself, but who would he have given it to? Ned wouldn't take it, which basically leaves Jon Arryn. Would the people back him as King as much as they would Robert?

Not that i have anything against the man :p

desires said:
Yep, won't fight with blunt swords, only proper ones, which makes him look like a tough guy but he knows the master-of-swords won't allow sharp swords so he ends up looking like a tough guy even though he knows what he's doing. Really frustrates me that sort of behavior, you actually see it quite often in the real world.
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Made worse by the fact that Robb actually beat him using blunt swords.
 
Well i better go to bed so i can read more of GoT. Nearing half way through it now only 10-15 hours left by my reading speed calculations. I just want to know all the details of the entire story, even the books that haven't been written yet. I want to inject it into my veins or something so I can just have all this fantasy story and plotlines revealed in one big rush to me like some sort of GoT prophet.
 
great episode - shame it took around 8 episodes to get here. The show does wonders when it focuses mostly on one story line, this season has had so much stuff going on I wonder if they only people that can understand it all are those that have read the books.
 
Few people from GoT doing signings this weekend here.

Lena Headey
Jason Mamoa
James Cosmo
Natalia Tena
 
Duff-Man said:
Another intersting factoid about the rebellion is that Varys was the one who arranged for the gates of King's Landing to be opened by persuading Aerys that the Lannister contingent (who arrived shortly before Ned and Robert) were here to help him. Thus he saved thousands of lives from what would have been a brutal and drawn-out siege. He knew that Areys planned to burn the city to ashes rather than lose it to rebels - as did Jamie Lannister before he put his sword through The Mad King.
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Varys actually warned against opening the gates, it was grandmaester Pycelle who persuaded Aerys because he is a Lannister loyalist.

Robert's claim to the throne is due to his grandmother being a Targaryen princess btw although he won the throne by rebelling against the King and winning the resulting war. It makes Stannis a hypocrite imo, either Dany is the rightful heir or Joffrey is due to him being unable to defeat the Lannisters in battle but he still goes around claiming to be the only rightful King.
 
50 or so mins of an episode and about 30mins of BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH with the queen. Typical of this show really the only thing that improved it was the battle!
 
Duffman I really think you should edit out those last comments.
Leave the theories and conjecture to for book thread unless you want a suspension
 
Duff-Man said:
...One final thing since we're talking about Lyanna Stark saga (and this is pure speculation on my part - I have *absolutely nothing* to back this up, it's all just personal speculation):
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Thanks for that history lesson, I think I understand the whole backstory a lot bnetter now. Didn't know that fact about the king's guard either (I guess it is to stop any conflict of interests and so to always be sworn to the king). GRRMartin clearly didn't get laid very often, he has two factions that aren't allowed pussy lol

Also I think your speculation must be quite unfounded, Rob and Ned spoke about Jon's mother before and surely Ned would not have kept it a secret from Rob back in the old days they were like brothers back then. I recently read in the book about how *******s lose their right to the throne once a 'true-born' son is born, even if the ******* is older. Nice idea and would certainly be a pretty awesome plot twist if that were true.
 
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