The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 13:39

Clubs are already signing players in May, so the window is already open.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 13:44

Metalface Mark said:
Clubs are already signing players in May, so the window is already open.

Except it isn't. Nobody can sign officially until the window opens on July 1st. Deals may have been done, pre-contracts etc. but nobody can sign OFFICIALLY until the window opens.

Hence Marko Marin of Werder Bremen has 'signed' for Chelsea in March, but does not officially become a Chelsea player until July 1st for example.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 13:45

Do you not play Football Manager? Haha!

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 13:49

steve1873 said:
Except it isn't. Nobody can sign officially until the window opens on July 1st. Deals may have been done, pre-contracts etc. but nobody can sign OFFICIALLY until the window opens.

Hence Marko Marin of Werder Bremen has 'signed' for Chelsea in March, but does not officially become a Chelsea player until July 1st for example.

http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=2045

There is no official start of a transfer window (in Scotland anyway), it just starts when the previous season ends, most people dont sign till june onwards due to their existing contract running out, but they could sign if a fee was involved.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 13:54

Means nothing the link you have posted. Lukas Podolski has been unveiled as an Arsenal signing, but cannot sign until the window opens officially.

Have a look at the schedules & exceptions section of the wiki link I posted.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 13:57

Just to add a transfer window may not be open for longer than 12 weeks in the summer. So working back from August 31st, the earliest the transfer window may open is June 8th.

Of course Scotland has an official time for the window opening. It would not comply with UEFA if it didn't.

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 13:58

steve1873 said:
Means nothing the link you have posted. Lukas Podolski has been unveiled as an Arsenal signing, but cannot sign until the window opens officially.

Have a look at the schedules & exceptions section of the wiki link I posted.

Yes, it states transfers can happen as soon as the season ends.

Gav · 31 May 2012 at 13:58

Metalface Mark said:
http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=2045

There is no official start of a transfer window (in Scotland anyway), it just starts when the previous season ends, most people dont sign till june onwards due to their existing contract running out, but they could sign if a fee was involved.

??? Seriously?

Do you know anything about Scottish football?

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 13:59

Gav said:
??? Seriously?

Do you know anything about Scottish football?

What do you take issue with?

Gav · 31 May 2012 at 13:59

steve1873 said:
Just to add a transfer window may not be open for longer than 12 weeks in the summer. So working back from August 31st, the earliest the transfer window may open is June 8th.

Of course Scotland has an official time for the window opening. It would not comply with UEFA if it didn't.

If I remember correctly... The window opened on the 9th of June last year. So I am guessing it will be on or around that date this year..

** 8th of june is 12 weeks from the 31st August.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 14:02

Metalface Mark said:
Yes, it states transfers can happen as soon as the season ends.

Did you just pick out the part that appears to substantiate your claim whilst ignoring the rest of the information that contradicts you?

That only refers to England and inter association transfers.

McMav · 31 May 2012 at 14:05

Is it not that its not a transfer windows its more a Registration window.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 14:08

Getting a little off topic in any case.

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 14:09

steve1873 said:
Did you just pick out the part that appears to substantiate your claim whilst ignoring the rest of the information that contradicts you?

That only refers to England and inter association transfers.

It refers to Scotland too.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 14:10

McMav said:
Is it not that its not a transfer windows its more a Registration window.

Yes it will be. There is nothing stopping any club (employer) from employing anyone at any time of the year. Only registering players with their associations can be limited.

Gav · 31 May 2012 at 14:11

McMav said:
Is it not that its not a transfer windows its more a Registration window.

It's just Mark's way of trying to stir the pot....

His hatred of Rangers means he has to have something negative to say about them in every post.

steve1873 · 31 May 2012 at 14:14

Metalface Mark said:
It refers to Scotland too.

Well the link I have posted only refers specifically to England. If the same also applies in Scotland then I stand corrected, but it can only be the same case as in England, inter association transfers until the window officially opens.

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 14:18

Gav said:
It's just Mark's way of trying to stir the pot....

His hatred of Rangers means he has to have something negative to say about them in every post.

Thats simply not true, I have said positive things about Rangers and would do so should anything positive happen.

When I was about 14 I got a tour around Ibrox, Graham Souness and Walter Smith let three young boys, one wearing a Celtic top which you could see poking out the top of his jacket, into his office and spoke with us, gave us autographs and took time to chat with us. (They were having Scampi) I have good memories of seeing the trophy room and the bike, being in the changing rooms and getting to walk on the pitch. We were all treated well that day (probably due to who was giving us the tour) but still, its a positive Rangers story for you.

Gav · 31 May 2012 at 14:19

Metalface Mark said:
Thats simply not true, I have said positive things about Rangers and would do so should anything positive happen.

When I was about 14 I got a tour around Ibrox, Graham Souness and Walter Smith let three young boys, one wearing a Celtic top which you could see poking out the top of his jacket, into his office and spoke with us, gave us autographs and took time to chat with us. (They were having Scampi) I have good memories of seeing the trophy room and the bike, being in the changing rooms and getting to walk on the pitch. We were all treated well that day (probably due to who was giving us the tour) but still, its a positive Rangers story for you.

Nice try... Sounds a bit fishy to me

Metalface Mark · 31 May 2012 at 14:20

Gav said:
Nice try... Sounds a bit fishy to me