Father beats man to death for molesting child; probably won't be arrested

He is, surely, guilty of manslaughter whether in self defence or not. I don't approve of the molester's actions by any means, but nor do I agree that the offender should have been killed! Ridiculous.

Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum :rolleyes:

What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.

The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!

Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters':rolleyes: is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.

Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!
 
This should have been murder in the first degree and he gets five years probation for manslaughter. Electing judges, prosecutors and sheriffs corrupts the criminal justice system; they will all do what is popular with voters.

Indeed. That is murder, nothing less.
 
Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum :rolleyes:

What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.

The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!

Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters':rolleyes: is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.

Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!
That kind of rational & logical argument will fall on deaf ears on this forum (as true as it may be).

It's funny, as most people here are not religious but believe in good & evil.

Where exactly do they think those concepts come from, or are based in?.
 
That kind of rational & logical argument will fall on deaf ears on this forum (as true as it may be).

It's funny, as most people here are not religious but believe in good & evil.

Where exactly do they think those concepts come from, or are based in?.

No no no no no no no no no no no no.

You see an extremely attractive female walking down the street - you would absolutely love to knock the back out of her - do you just get on with it and rape her? No, of course not.

We consider rapists to be the scum of the earth and no death, IMO, is humiliating or painful enough for them.

So why should we accept that a person who is aroused by something else is acting on this impulse because they are sick? They are not just sick, they are sick and making a conscious decision to do something they know is wrong. There is no argument which states that they cannot differentiate between right and wrong, they know it's wrong, otherwise they wouldn't go to such lengths to avoid being caught.

Mental disorder or no mental disorder - they know they are doing wrong but carry on anyway.

Burn with fire.

/discussion

Religion vs. good and evil - you mad bro? Are you seriously suggesting there is any link between the two?
 
Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum :rolleyes:

What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.

The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!

Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters':rolleyes: is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.

Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!

Always have agreed with this, guess for them it is a right as for me not to think like that

However I could easily see myself doing the same as the father ,, and regretting I later
 
Always have agreed with this, guess for them it is a right as for me not to think like that

However I could easily see myself doing the same as the father ,, and regretting I later

The only thing I would regret here is being sent down for it. If I was cleared of wrong doing then the only regret I would have is not drawings the ****s death out a little longer than a few punches.
 
Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum :rolleyes:

What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.

The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!

Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters':rolleyes: is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.

Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!

That kind of rational & logical argument will fall on deaf ears on this forum (as true as it may be).

It's funny, as most people here are not religious but believe in good & evil.

Where exactly do they think those concepts come from, or are based in?.

Whilst I'm a firm believer of rationale and logic, none of that scientific explanation or reasoning is going to lessen the physical or psychological damage done to both the child and their family by the paedophile.
 
No no no no no no no no no no no no.
No.

You see an extremely attractive female walking down the street - you would absolutely love to knock the back out of her - do you just get on with it and rape her? No, of course not.
No, because I don't have problems with my pre-frontal cortex (the inhibitor) which enables me to think rationally & not act upon short term gratification.

I was also fortunate enough to be taught empathy/ethics, which added another layer to stop me committing those acts - because I find other people in distress unpleasant.

We consider rapists to be the scum of the earth and no death, IMO, is humiliating or painful enough for them.
I consider rapists to be dysfunctional humans who need to be locked up for the protection of others (while they are treated if possible, or remain incarcerated if not)

So why should we accept that a person who is aroused by something else is acting on this impulse because they are sick?
The fact they are willing to break such an open social taboo, inflict suffering on a child tends to indicate the person isn't a well rounded individual.

They are not just sick, they are sick and making a conscious decision to do something they know is wrong.
Not everybody knows the difference between "right & wrong" (harmful behaviour I'd use the term) - even if they do, it's the emotion & empathy for suffering caused which stops people from doing it - not the legality.

Which is why some people may smoke weed, but not rape - both are illegal but one involves inflicting harm on others - the other does not.

There is no argument which states that they cannot differentiate between right and wrong, they know it's wrong, otherwise they wouldn't go to such lengths to avoid being caught.
They know society punishes it, that's not the same as understanding the moral implications of what they do.

Mental disorder or no mental disorder - they know they are doing wrong but carry on anyway.
Some people are quite incapable of knowing the difference (more-so when you accept good & evil are artificial constructs).

Burn with fire.

/discussion
Then you have a closed mind.

Religion vs. good and evil - you mad bro? Are you seriously suggesting there is any link between the two?
Yes I am, because the concept of good & evil has been linked with religion & still is.

We know this to be true, as one persons good is not the same as another's - making it clearly to be a subjective evaluation of a behaviour - what you are doing is projecting your opinions of a behaviour onto the actual behaviour.

While I find the act abhorrent, it's because it causes objective suffering to innocents - I don't think it's evil (because evil does not exist).

To believe in good & evil you need to believe in "free will" which is just as flawed as good & evil.

Try reading up on neuroscience & how our historic view of free-will is incompatible with the science.

We are animals, acting in accordance to a combination of our genetics, epigenetic, environment & other various external influences.
 
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Whilst I'm a firm believer of rationale and logic, none of that scientific explanation or reasoning is going to lessen the physical or psychological damage done to both the child and their family by the paedophile.
I totally agree, but it does allow us to perhaps try to understand the causal factors (in an effort to reduce it occurring again) - which is what we all actually want.

Branding behaviour as evil does nothing for the children, nothing to prevent it happening again - at least the scientific exploitation has the benefit of finding a cure/way of spotting indicators of this kind of behaviour before more victims are created.

We only have to stop a single generation of abuse & I'd guarantee the stat's would drop significantly from that point onwards (a large portion of child abuses, had been abused in childhood) - akin to the fact that about 80% of the people on death-row in the USA has been severely beaten as a child) - cause -> effect.

**** in, **** out basically.
 
I wonder how elmarko would react if he found a paedo trying to have sex with one of his children. I somewhat suspect the 'He's a victim too' mentality would get shelved pretty quickly.
 
I wonder how elmarko would react if he found a paedo trying to have sex with one of his children. I somewhat suspect the 'He's a victim too' mentality would get shelved pretty quickly.

I don't think that's an excuse for murder though. I would probably want to kill the guy, but unlike him I would have the restraint to do what is right.
 
I don't think that's an excuse for murder though. I would probably want to kill the guy, but unlike him I would have the restraint to do what is right.

"I say old boy, you wouldn't mind refraining from nobbing my prepubescent daughter for a minute and hand yourself into the nearest police station would you chap?"
 
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