Soldato
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Fair play.
He is, surely, guilty of manslaughter whether in self defence or not. I don't approve of the molester's actions by any means, but nor do I agree that the offender should have been killed! Ridiculous.
Killing him no, hitting him yes.
Hitting him with an iron bar until he is dead, no, two punches and a tragic and unexpected death, yes.
I'm sure he has very good legal counsel, because he'll need it, but it isn't mob justice or premeditated murder.
This should have been murder in the first degree and he gets five years probation for manslaughter. Electing judges, prosecutors and sheriffs corrupts the criminal justice system; they will all do what is popular with voters.
That kind of rational & logical argument will fall on deaf ears on this forum (as true as it may be).Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum
What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.
The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!
Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters'is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.
Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!
He is, surely, guilty of manslaughter whether in self defence or not. I don't approve of the molester's actions by any means, but nor do I agree that the offender should have been killed! Ridiculous.
That kind of rational & logical argument will fall on deaf ears on this forum (as true as it may be).
It's funny, as most people here are not religious but believe in good & evil.
Where exactly do they think those concepts come from, or are based in?.
Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum
What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.
The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!
Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters'is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.
Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!
Always have agreed with this, guess for them it is a right as for me not to think like that
However I could easily see myself doing the same as the father ,, and regretting I later
Burn with fire.
Agree 100% but don't expect much support of that opinion on this right-wing sun/daily mail loving forum
What people here can't grasp is that the vast majority of paedophiles are SICK people that are born with brains that don't function like a normal persons, they are not evil.
They have low activation of the hypothalamus, this low activity in the frontal cortex causes them to not get sexually aroused like a normal person would.
The scientific fact that paedophile's brain circuits connected to normal sexuality are non-functional combined with the statistical facts of the vicious circle (i.e The abused becoming abuser) clearly says to me that these people are broken for want of a better word or at the very least damaged!
They are not evil scum of the earth and should be hunted down and slowly killed like so many of the sun/daily mail morons would propose, they are sick people who need our help like any other disabled person!
Of course they are extremely dangerous people because of this chemical imbalance and everything should be done to prevent them from acting app-on this, however vilifying them and turning them into 'evil monsters'is neither correct or constructive in helping safeguard our children and young.
Much more research, education and sensible discussion about this is what will really help safeguard young people not scare tactics!
That kind of rational & logical argument will fall on deaf ears on this forum (as true as it may be).
It's funny, as most people here are not religious but believe in good & evil.
Where exactly do they think those concepts come from, or are based in?.
No.No no no no no no no no no no no no.
No, because I don't have problems with my pre-frontal cortex (the inhibitor) which enables me to think rationally & not act upon short term gratification.You see an extremely attractive female walking down the street - you would absolutely love to knock the back out of her - do you just get on with it and rape her? No, of course not.
I consider rapists to be dysfunctional humans who need to be locked up for the protection of others (while they are treated if possible, or remain incarcerated if not)We consider rapists to be the scum of the earth and no death, IMO, is humiliating or painful enough for them.
The fact they are willing to break such an open social taboo, inflict suffering on a child tends to indicate the person isn't a well rounded individual.So why should we accept that a person who is aroused by something else is acting on this impulse because they are sick?
Not everybody knows the difference between "right & wrong" (harmful behaviour I'd use the term) - even if they do, it's the emotion & empathy for suffering caused which stops people from doing it - not the legality.They are not just sick, they are sick and making a conscious decision to do something they know is wrong.
They know society punishes it, that's not the same as understanding the moral implications of what they do.There is no argument which states that they cannot differentiate between right and wrong, they know it's wrong, otherwise they wouldn't go to such lengths to avoid being caught.
Some people are quite incapable of knowing the difference (more-so when you accept good & evil are artificial constructs).Mental disorder or no mental disorder - they know they are doing wrong but carry on anyway.
Then you have a closed mind.Burn with fire.
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Yes I am, because the concept of good & evil has been linked with religion & still is.Religion vs. good and evil - you mad bro? Are you seriously suggesting there is any link between the two?
I totally agree, but it does allow us to perhaps try to understand the causal factors (in an effort to reduce it occurring again) - which is what we all actually want.Whilst I'm a firm believer of rationale and logic, none of that scientific explanation or reasoning is going to lessen the physical or psychological damage done to both the child and their family by the paedophile.
I wonder how elmarko would react if he found a paedo trying to have sex with one of his children. I somewhat suspect the 'He's a victim too' mentality would get shelved pretty quickly.
Indeed. That is murder, nothing less.
I wonder how elmarko would react if he found a paedo trying to have sex with one of his children. I somewhat suspect the 'He's a victim too' mentality would get shelved pretty quickly.
I know the USA has different offences, but basing on UK law surely this could be manslaughter?
I don't think that's an excuse for murder though. I would probably want to kill the guy, but unlike him I would have the restraint to do what is right.