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It's hard on your own. Best way is to join a corp, ones like RvB are quite noob-friendly but don't do a lot in the way of teaching from what I've seen. Agony Unleashed and Snigwaffe both do PvP training, but I think Agony might charge for it? Snigwaffe I've heard mixed opinions about (they might be ****s) Do a bit of research before joining a corp though, lots will claim to run "PvP operations", but many will suck - look them up on eve kill, there you can see the sort of fleet sizes they roam in, how often they PvP, at what times, and most importantly - if they're any good at it (look at total kills compared to total losses. losses are expected, but if they lose substantially more than they kill it's a no-no imo).
If you want to try solo, it will inevitably end up with lots of ship losses, they key is to work out what went wrong, although sometimes it is impossible to avoid. Best to read up on agression flagging rules ("aggro"), GCC (global criminal countdown) too.
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How about giving some of that isk back to the people you "acquired" it from if you quit?
Losing ships is part of the process though 
After every fight (well... after you warp your pod out / scooped the loot and warped off / docked up) you always sit down and say "What happened there exactly? What did I do right? What did I do wrong? How were they fit? What could be different next time?" etc.
You then try and come up with some lessons learned to apply next time.
A lot of the knowledge I have has come from stupid mistakes I have made in the past.
Waffles are good but you need to make sure you're gonna get along with the humour on comms and whatnot. Personally I know I wouldn't like it.
Also if you want to learn to PVP generally the bigger the gang/fleet you fly in regularly the slower you are going to learn.
After every fight (well... after you warp your pod out / scooped the loot and warped off / docked up) you always sit down and say "What happened there exactly? What did I do right? What did I do wrong? How were they fit? What could be different next time?" etc.
You then try and come up with some lessons learned to apply next time.
A lot of the knowledge I have has come from stupid mistakes I have made in the past.
Waffles are good but you need to make sure you're gonna get along with the humour on comms and whatnot. Personally I know I wouldn't like it.
Also if you want to learn to PVP generally the bigger the gang/fleet you fly in regularly the slower you are going to learn.
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I agree with what Horse Pop says. You need to lose ships to know how to fly them, there is NO point using the best fit in the world if you can't fly it. I have now lost 3 Cane's and I am tweaking the fit to what I like flying, not some other chump.
Word's of advise, RvB are blob warfare and gate camps. I REGRET joining as I wasn't taught a single thing. If you want PVP learning then join a small corp who live in low-sec. Some-one like Tus Network. We fly small gangs of 3-5 men in BC's, mainly Cane's as its fun. Get yourself a ship you like flying and make it your own. Don't rely on other people fits to get you through. In game if your in need of help fitting, as 'Annie Anome' (sp?) as they are fantastic and showed me the right way to fit.
I have fit a rather 'odd' Cyclone that I am going to run for a bit, 5 220mm Vulcans + 3 Medium nuets paired with a XLASB + amp. Going to DIAF but it will be fun...
If you run into me in Gemodi area, I'll kill you and then tell you how and why etc...
P.S. Keep it fun...
Word's of advise, RvB are blob warfare and gate camps. I REGRET joining as I wasn't taught a single thing. If you want PVP learning then join a small corp who live in low-sec. Some-one like Tus Network. We fly small gangs of 3-5 men in BC's, mainly Cane's as its fun. Get yourself a ship you like flying and make it your own. Don't rely on other people fits to get you through. In game if your in need of help fitting, as 'Annie Anome' (sp?) as they are fantastic and showed me the right way to fit.
I have fit a rather 'odd' Cyclone that I am going to run for a bit, 5 220mm Vulcans + 3 Medium nuets paired with a XLASB + amp. Going to DIAF but it will be fun...
If you run into me in Gemodi area, I'll kill you and then tell you how and why etc...
P.S. Keep it fun...
So am I, although I haven't really had chance to test it yet due to the bulk of the corp/alliance being gun toting Yanks...4 are from Texas alone...and it's 4th July...
I imagine it would be similiar to a dual neut shield cane just a bit less dps and a little longer surviving under fire, definitely an interesting fit but I'd rather have a bit more dps myself.
Believe it or not that was the plan once I'd decided to quit until goons crashing the datacore market sent my investments into the crapper. None of the isk is liquid (well, maybe the isk I lost on blink but that's someone elses liquid now...).
Maybe when the market stabilises I'll resub for a month and cash it all out.
I really am terribad at market speculation.
Should handle it fine tho PVP on a touchpad would be a bit of a no no IMO.
I've got a dual core core 2 duo era laptop @ 2.83GHz w/ 4GB DDR3 and a GTX260m and it handles the game fine at medium settings - hooked up via my KVM for mouse and keyboard input.
Great, thanks. Waiting with baited breath!!
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Its a great game. No way around it, eve is a fantastic game if you have time invested and the right people to play with, im told in recent years they have made it more friendly towards how useful and how much fun stuff you can access early on ... when i played (and i did so for about 6-7 years), you had to basically train 6 months from the start to have the min skill req's to fly one of my alliance's fleet fitted standard battleships /w optimal skills, and since you spent most your time ingame with the fleet this was what you wanted to be in unless you flew capitals (and that was another 6 months easily to meet fleet req's).
In the meantime you simply flew interdictors and other harassment / map control ships and tried to be as useful as possible, but its kind of been like a fly trying to fight a windscreen wiper, its fun untill you go splat and thats about it.
Not every alliance will have min req's for you to fly a certain type of ship with them, infact i suspect very few will be that organized but i could be wrong. In either case once your skilled up and find a good group of folks to play with... and start to get emotionally invested in the space your trying to protect or take (yes you will get emotionally invested in your territories no matter what people say), then this is the best game ever... untill it becomes like a second job! (the economics of this game are addictive and punishing to a real life card carrying person).
In the meantime you simply flew interdictors and other harassment / map control ships and tried to be as useful as possible, but its kind of been like a fly trying to fight a windscreen wiper, its fun untill you go splat and thats about it.
Not every alliance will have min req's for you to fly a certain type of ship with them, infact i suspect very few will be that organized but i could be wrong. In either case once your skilled up and find a good group of folks to play with... and start to get emotionally invested in the space your trying to protect or take (yes you will get emotionally invested in your territories no matter what people say), then this is the best game ever... untill it becomes like a second job! (the economics of this game are addictive and punishing to a real life card carrying person).