me too. felt a bit meh to me coming from the '2.
What is so special about a Honda Integra Type R - DC5?
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me too. felt a bit meh to me coming from the '2.
It might be a cable linkage but it's still a fantastic gearchange and the gear lever positioning simply could not be better IMO.
Positioning is ok, never got on with the dashboard mount and it might be great, but it's a shame that it isn't as nice as the solid shifting older DC2.
I've had two two ATR's, two EP3's, a DC2 and a DC5. The DC5 is the best overall, I really miss that car. I don't think I'd have one again though, as by the time it becomes a viable option they'll be pushing 10 years old for the last of the pre-facelift models which I prefer. It will dispatch most hot hatches with ease, even modern day ones. I used to laugh at Focus ST's and Astra VXR's understeering behind me trying to keep up. Loads of power low down in the range doesn't always suit FWD cars.
Surely a remapped ST or VXR would be quicker.?
Then remap the DC5 and it'd be quicker still? I can't think of any situation where a VXR or ST would be quicker than a DC5 like for like, unless of course it's a sprint to 100, and even then, I think it'd be close. It has a lower roll center, lower COG, better brakes, it's lighter, LSD as standard etc etc.
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An ST pushing nearly 300BHp wouldn't be faster than a DC5 even in a straight line?
^ That much power going to the front wheels? loads of wheelspin I would imagine whilst the ITR launches forward smoothly and effortlessly, but surely within time and distance the brute power of 300bhp would overtake it...
DC5 has lots of qualities but the one that stood out for me was the feel through the hydraulic steering - absolutely mind blowing, even the odd bit of torque steer was enjoyable and added to the information the car gave you.
Electric steering is the work of the devil.
Electric steering is the work of the devil.
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You can't compare a standard car to a modded one, a 300bhp Focus ST VS a 260bhp KPRO'd DC5 would be pretty even i'd imagine.
Once you learnt how to exploit the diff with a bit of left foot braking you'd never believe a FWD car could slingshot out of corners like a DC5, i could leave VXR's in the dust.
Once you learnt how to exploit the diff with a bit of left foot braking you'd never believe a FWD car could slingshot out of corners like a DC5, i could leave VXR's in the dust.
Read my post again. As above, you can't exactly compare modded to standard. Not a go at you, but it really annoys me when people do this. 'Well just remap it and it'll be faster'. Really? It's pretty obvious, isn't it?
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Sorry I meant a remapped DC5 also. But yeah i get your point I hate that too.
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The fact that most motorsport competitions put you in different classes depending on engine capacity.
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That is motorsport though?
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So at my local circuit (Castle Combe) for the Saloon championship there's a guy who races an Integra DC2. Because it's only 1800CC he gets in class B. If he had a bigger declared engine capacity (either more displacement or the FI multiplier) he'd be in Class A with 1801cc to 3000cc cars. Up against a 3L car he might not be so quick. Consequently the 200BHP that the DC2 gets out of only 1800CC (110BHP/Litre) is pretty handy.
On the other hand, as our big block V8 loving friends say "there aint no replacement for displacement"...
On the other hand, as our big block V8 loving friends say "there aint no replacement for displacement"...
It's a sign of good engineering. Getting the most power as possible from an engine without having to make it larger/heavier.
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True but at the same time squeezing as much power out of a small engine can be counter productive.
1.4TSI engine for example. 180BHP, 128BHP per litre. Not a reliable engine.
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Thats compound charged though so kinda cheating anyway.
Sums up a portion of the thread title though. DC5 reliability.
BB1 Prelude engine was pretty good too, 200 PS from a virtually immortal 2.2 in 1992, such a good engine it was reused in the next Prelude and in the Accord Type-R.