Reported: 10 Killed in US Batman Premiere

Robbo · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:13

asim18 said:
But you can die from being shot in the legs, he stated a basic fact, doesn't take an expert to know that

I'm confused.

It was more the "a bullet proof vest doesnt make you invulnerable to bullets" part.

Well, duh.

estebanrey · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:15

Veco said:
Expanding on that. Why would you take your 3 month old to the cinema at MIDNIGHT.

Expanding again why would take your 3 month old to a cinema at midnight to see a film rated as a 12A (or whatever the US equivalent is)

asim18 · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:15

ad said:
Why would you take a 3 month old baby to the cinema?

Imagine all the people wishing that baby would shut up.... then...

Maybe that's what prompted him to start shooting?

ubersonic · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:15

Robbo said:
It was more the "a bullet proof vest doesnt make you invulnerable to bullets" part.

Well, duh.

But it would if you had to be shot in the chest to die, he was using it as an analogy to go with the point that being shot in a limb can also be fatal.

asim18 · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:16

Robbo said:
It was more the "a bullet proof vest doesnt make you invulnerable to bullets" part.

Well, duh.

lol

Robbo · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:16

ubersonic said:
But it would if you had to be shot in the chest to die, he was using it as an analogy to go with the point that being shot in a limb can also be fatal.

Quite, I should have quoted the post he was replying to as well.

estebanrey · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:17

ubersonic said:
But it would if you had to be shot in the chest to die, he was using it as an analogy to go with the point that being shot in a limb can also be fatal.

Only if it hits a major artery (are there in the legs, serious question)

phil675 · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:18

For some reason I want to know what kind of rifle was used.

Musty Pie · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:19

estebanrey said:
Only if it hits a major artery (are there in the legs, serious question)

Yes I believe there are. Not quire sure which ones but pretty sure.

/Doctor

Robbo · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:20

BBC News said:
The gunman was named as James Holmes, by FBI and Department of Homeland Security sources.

The FBI, which is working with the police, says no terrorism link has been established.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

oulton · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:20

I imagine this was a complete nobhead who watched the dark night 1000 times and imagined becoming the next 'baddie' in the movie in his sick mind...

Robbo said:
Because there's normally a discussion in these sorts of threads with people talking as if they're gun/combat experts, calling on their Call of Duty experience.

Well have you ever shot anybody? I doubt more than 0.0001% of the british Population have ever even fired a real firearm so that makes us all pretty much not experts on the matter*

*Apart from me, I shot a Glock 9 last week on holiday in Thailand

oulton · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:23

estebanrey said:
Only if it hits a major artery (are there in the legs, serious question)

Actually depending on the type of ammunition used, in theory a bullet could in fact hit somebody in the knee, ricochet upwards and get lodged in their upper torso.

Robbo · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:24

oulton said:
Well have you ever shot anybody? I doubt more than 0.0001% of the british Population have ever even fired a real firearm so that makes us all pretty much not experts on the matter

I've fired a real firearm, but not at a person.

nemtizz · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:25

Bp'ed yet?

First person account on Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/wv4q2/someone_came_into_our_theater_at_the_midnight/

Rameses · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:28

Just been updated on BBC and they now say 12, not 14 as I saw earlier.

At least 12 people have been killed and 50 injured in a shooting at a cinema near the US city of Denver, police say.

A man wearing a gas mask opened fire after tossing a tear gas canister at a midnight showing of the new Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises, in Aurora.

A 24-year-old man was arrested in a car park nearby in possession of a rifle, handgun and knife. One other gun was recovered from the theatre.

Terrible news, RIP.

Nexus · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:28

estebanrey said:
Have you ever considered it might be some people's way of dealing with grief. I watched this programme once about the guys who have to go along and clean up the mess from people who throw themselves in front of trains and they only way they could cope with it was to joke about it.

Grief?
Because you have personally been effected by all this?

A person who cleans people up from under trains is doing a job that is quite soul destroying and they need to find ways to dehumanise the situation. In the same way that I saw a Nurse on Channel 4's '24 Hours in A&E' this week who said when doing heart massages, she looks away from the patient and tries to pretend she is doing something else.

What you are doing isn't grief or trying to cope with it, its just making a cheap joke in the event of a tragedy and now trying to defend your childish behaviour.

Woden · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:29

Musty Pie said:
Yes I believe there are. Not quire sure which ones but pretty sure.

/Doctor

Femoral Artery.

fozter · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:29

To those all for banning guns, after literally 2 mins of googling I find reports that 'small arms' cause 500k deaths per year, 200k being civiliation deaths. Alcohol causes 2.5 million deaths a year. This is globally in both cases. Shall we ban alcohol too? Outlaw guns and only the outlaws have guns, and the government. There is nothing to say these nutters wouldn't have access to guns anyway. I would like to see more information released about the offenders back ground to be honest.

NeilF · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:30

asim18 said:
Imagine all the people wishing that baby would shut up.... then...

Maybe that's what prompted him to start shooting?

Otherwise he would have just sat there quietly in his seat the rest of the night in his kevlar body armour and a shotgun across his lap... :rolleyes:

NeilF · 20 Jul 2012 at 13:31

fozter said:
Shall we ban alcohol too? Outlaw guns and only the outlaws have guns, and the government. There is nothing to say these nutters wouldn't have access to guns anyway.

Here... we... go... :rolleyes:

How many times have we seen those exact three sentences before!

ps: We have fairly strict gun laws in the UK, thankfully!