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jakeke said:
So can Man Utd, or you wouldn't be spending £20m on Kagawa, bidding on RvP, bidding £30m for a kid in Brazil etc. you are absolutely loaded.
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Well, that does seem to be the case but we're not loaded in the same way that City are, and our manager is quite stubborn when it comes to prices.
 
Shocker.

Possibly on his way to lokomotiv who I believe have offered more money and will offer him his full wages.

Would love it if he didn't go to Spurs. Your getting a very good striker who if he didn't play for us you would not be bidding 5m for him and then trying to offer him lower wages.

I hope we don't sign RvP, cant see where he will play in the team. Much rather just sell Dzeko and keep Guidetti.
 
Jeremy Wilson, who I believe has good connections with Arsenal, is reporting that Utd have indicated to Arsenal that they're not prepared to pay even £15m for Van Persie, let alone the £25m+ Arsenal are hoping for:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...Arsenal-not-interested-in-bids-below-20m.html

Ultimately I expect RvP will go but how much he's worth is incredibly difficult to evaluate. On one hand he's been one of the leading players in the league for the past couple of seasons so it's understandable that Arsenal don't want to let him go on the cheap but because of his age and injury record throughout his career, he's a gamble for any side buying him.

Realistically he's got 3 seasons at best at the top of his game and with his injury record you can't rule out the possibility of him playing just 50-60 games over those 3 years. ~£20m + £10m per year wages is a huge gamble for a player that will be worthless in a couple of seasons and may spend more time in the physio's room than on the pitch. However from Arsenal's perspective, he's possibly priceless to them (well the price of a CL place). Without RvP last season Arsenal would have struggled and almost certainly not made it into the Champions League. With the competition for the top 4 places getting stronger and stronger each year, Van Persie could again be the difference between Arsenal finishing in the CL places or not. If Arsenal believe that could be the case, £25m might be the bare minimum they'd accept.

Robbo said:
Well, that does seem to be the case but we're not loaded in the same way that City are, and our manager is quite stubborn when it comes to prices.
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He never seemed to have a problem spending over the odds to sign players before. What's changed?
 
I doubt Ade will want to go to Russia even though he will get more than he does at Spurs. He is still under contract at City so is in his rights to train with the youth team for the next two years, or as I suspect Levy is trying to do is get City to help out with Adebayors signing on bonus which will supplement his weekly wage at Spurs. It would just be typical Levy and a show of brinkmanship. Man city want rid, and Spurs want a striker but on the cheap, and Ade doesn't want to take a pay cut it will be interesting to see who wins.
 
crackerman said:
I doubt Ade will want to go to Russia even though he will get more than he does at Spurs. He is still under contract at City so is in his rights to train with the youth team for the next two years, or as I suspect Levy is trying to do is get City to help out with Adebayors signing on bonus which will supplement his weekly wage at Spurs. It would just be typical Levy and a show of brinkmanship. Man city want rid, and Spurs want a striker but on the cheap, and Ade doesn't want to take a pay cut it will be interesting to see who wins.
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yeh i heard the lokomotiv thing a few days ago and thought there was no way he'd go there. he's either using it as an excuse to rock the boat and get more money or it's a nothing point.

could work in spurs' favour, city obviously want rid. he wont go to moscow, spurs wont match their wage offer, city wade in with the cheque book and end up paying to get rid of their own player :D
 
BaZ87 said:
He never seemed to have a problem spending over the odds to sign players before. What's changed?
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Debt repayments combined with not going far in the CL (cant have helped at the very least)

Plus money spent on Singapore IPO which never happened followed by US IPO (may not be much, but Im sure both cost the club some money)

RvP's injury history cant help either (however fit he has been for the last.....18 months or so)

bloodline76 said:
I just cant see them selling to Utd, even if they offered more money, City would beat it. City arent going to be put off by £25m value. I think he will go between £20-25 personally.

Hopefully they spend the money straight away and then we will have let RVP go and got three strikers in. Wenger might even push Walcott up front to tempt him into signing another contract
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IF reports from RvP's rep's are to be believed, he wont be going to City full stop - no matter what Arsenal want.
 
Well I've decided I want RVP in a table cloth jersey next season so I want the club to go all out to make it so. RVP & Rooney up front is just too drool worthy for words :cool:
 
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed he intends to sign a new left-back.

Ferguson has loaned his main cover in the shape of Fabio to Queens Park Rangers for next season.

He has a number of youngsters capable of filling in, but with Patrice Evra the only senior left-back he is ready to bolster his options.

Everton's Leighton Baines has been linked with a move to Old Trafford all summer, and Ferguson admits he will be looking at that area.

Asked if he would be signing a left-back he confirmed: "Yes. We have two young lads we gave a bit of time to against AmaZulu [their first pre-season friendly] but they are young.

"Patrice will be all right. He's shown he has a resilience about him and has a great attitude to playing, but he is 31 next month."

Ferguson admitted it can be an issue attracting a player when he has to compete with Evra - who is a virtual ever-present when fit.

"That's a possibility," he said.

"But we are not at the stage where we're assessing that. It's not an easy decision to make."
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No idea where this has come from but it seems the interest in Baines could well be true, could we seriously be looking at getting in Baines, Lucas and RVP? Bet we end up with none of them :p
 
The RVP situation is really tricky. If we sell him then it furthers the message that we're quite content to just roll over and let other clubs take our players whenever they throw some money at us, it also sends a message to our players that if they make a big enough fuss we'll just submit to their demands. We aren't going to get £25,000,000 for him, but you can see why the club would ask for that when you have relatively unknown and unproven Brazilians going for stupid money.

RVP only has one year left on his current contract but what are we supposed to do? Keeping him could bring a trophy to our club, he'll want to try and replicate the goalscoring form of the past season and a half in order to attract the best clubs. If he gets injured or his form slips then will the very best teams still want him next season when he's going to be 30? Also, if RVP does stay for another season then what happens to the striker which we've just bought?

For country Podolski doesn't have much choice but to play on the wing, with Klose and more recently Gomez preferred up front, but for Cologne he was a powerful striker and the same for Giroud who is very much the man up top. I don't see Wenger changing the formation around, the more likely scenario is that Podolski is played as a winger and Giroud is simply left on the bench, a huge waste in my opinion, especially if RVP does indeed leave next summer, all that will have been achieved is the loss of our best forward and a waste of a year of Giroud.

So basically if we sell him then it makes us yet again look weak, to other teams and to our players, if we keep him then it's probably going to amount to stunting the settling in time of the other acquisitions and it could even cause problems in the dressing room.
 
Oh Daily Mail :o

Sao Paulo have demanded Manchester United increase their offer for Lucas Moura to a staggering £50million.

The Brazilian club insist they turned down a bid of £27m for the starlet after chief scout Jim Lawlor was sent to broker a deal.

The 19-year-old midfielder is currently in London preparing for the Olympics and is set to face Stuart Pearce's Team GB in Middlesbrough on Friday.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2176417/Manchester-United-pay-50m-Lucas-Moura.html

Considering the Sao Paulo director said: "'Manchester United made a very important offer of €35m but they would need to produce a little more," director Marco Aurelio Cunha Cunha was quoted as saying by TMW.

A 'little' more than €35m is not £50m. :p
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
The RVP situation is really tricky. If we sell him then it furthers the message that we're quite content to just roll over and let other clubs take our players whenever they throw some money at us, it also sends a message to our players that if they make a big enough fuss we'll just submit to their demands. We aren't going to get £25,000,000 for him, but you can see why the club would ask for that when you have relatively unknown and unproven Brazilians going for stupid money.

RVP only has one year left on his current contract but what are we supposed to do? Keeping him could bring a trophy to our club, he'll want to try and replicate the goalscoring form of the past season and a half in order to attract the best clubs. If he gets injured or his form slips then will the very best teams still want him next season when he's going to be 30? Also, if RVP does stay for another season then what happens to the striker which we've just bought?

For country Podolski doesn't have much choice but to play on the wing, with Klose and more recently Gomez preferred up front, but for Cologne he was a powerful striker and the same for Giroud who is very much the man up top. I don't see Wenger changing the formation around, the more likely scenario is that Podolski is played as a winger and Giroud is simply left on the bench, a huge waste in my opinion, especially if RVP does indeed leave next summer, all that will have been achieved is the loss of our best forward and a waste of a year of Giroud.

So basically if we sell him then it makes us yet again look weak, to other teams and to our players, if we keep him then it's probably going to amount to stunting the settling in time of the other acquisitions and it could even cause problems in the dressing room.
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I'm not too bothered about looking weak. City have proved that money talks. Whether we rate the players or not, we should be more concerned that we are letting these players drift into their last season with us. Especially first team players.

If RVP wants to leave then I say let him go to the highest bidder. I think he would do better at City as he would have more player rotation there, less risk of injury.

I wish they would just get it over with so we can focus the team. We dont want this unrest amongst the players going into the pre-seasons. Sell him, make a fresh start, maybe make a big signing to boost morale.
 
if moura is like any of the previous Brazilians fergie has bought id rather not have him,kleberson still gives me nightmares and anderson hasn't blown us away
 
Anderson was being played as an attacking midfielder before, we play him in a deeper role than he was playing before and have tried to get him to work on the more defensive side of things.
 
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